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Nissan Leaf

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭whippet


    I wouldn't really be able to offer to much longer ownership advice. I've a 40 SVE since last march and have just under 30,000km on the clock and apart from an issue with the DC charging at the very start it hasn't missed a beat. The problem was a faulty (from new) cable on the loom which needed to be replaced under warranty - it did take the dealer weeks to figure out the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Has anyone heard back from their Leaf orders this year yet. Still waiting on an order from march. I know about the delays etc just wondering if anyone got a call



  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭pron


    Ordered March (SVE-40) : Collected August.

    Was told at the time that the dealer had had the vast majority of their orders for the year cancelled by Nissan - effectively anyone ticking an options box it seemed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭ElitesTeam


    How much should it cost to replace brake pads roughly. car is squeaking when moving slow so prob them. service book this week in windsor. wondering the cost incase they offer to do it? for a gen 1.5



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Can anyone with a Leaf40 confirm if they experience torque steer when accelerating hard? I test drove a used one last week at a main dealer and it nearly took me into the next lane when I put the foot down. When I look it up, some owners claim torque steer is a thing, but surely this is a tracking issue at the very least, perhaps something more?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭whippet


    there is a touch of it when you floor it but nothing that would put me off driving it quick. People can be dramatic about these things - it isn't a fast car



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    Torque steer is typical of all FWD cars with some power, and noticeable more on the LEAF40. I quite like hitting it hard into the turns on quiet bigger roads and steering it back onto position, same with the bigger battery version with even more power. Some FWD cars dampen it better than others, like the e-Megane or Polestar 2 according to reviews, with similar sub 8 sec 0-100km/h performance. Electric cars are heavy, so they will never be that spritely unless they have massive grip through AWD and big tyres, well-distributed weight, or even smaller battery packs and non-metal chassis like the i3.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Leaf like many other fwd cars can suffer from excessive torque steer if the front wishbone bushings are softened or torn/damaged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    You won't see it til March 2023 the earliest. They aren't building any til then after stopping the line in July. Dealers aren't being upfront as they know they will lose more orders. I expect the price will be higher too.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Lost first bar in leaf 152 24Kwh at the start of the year, recently I noticed some range issues - commute seems to use 5%+ each way since start of October - bit colder I thought. This week I charged on ecars from 55% to 80% used 3.6Kwh and 50% to 100% used 8.2Kwh. That kinda says battery is down to about 16.4Kwh? bit of a shock, still only one bar gone, but battery seems to have lost 1/3rd capacity. Anyone have anything similar happen?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    It will take less of a charge when cold. Really noticeable in smaller battery cars

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    You are somewhere between ~80-85% since you are only 1 bar down.

    You can’t extrapolate capacity based on the SoC figure as it’s not linear.

    And also note that when new you have 22kWh usable, not 24kWh.

    And as said, colder weather affecting it slightly too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭Metalpanic


    No this was excessive, definitely not just a gentle tug on the wheel or me being dramatic. I have driven pretty nippy cars before, and while by no means an expert, my gut says it is something out of the ordinary. I have only ever driven RWD EVs before, so thought I would ask here for some advice from seasoned Leaf drivers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭Metalpanic


    This was my thinking too. Log book hadn't registered a service in 4 years and the dealer said it hadn't been serviced by them yet. Rest of the car was very clean, low mileage. It was probably hopped off kerbs or speed bumps.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Right, and it could also be out of spec front alignment in general. We used to have new L24 and L40 and now L30 and the current (oldest and highest mileage) car is suffering from torque steer a bit more so the bushings are on the eventual to-do list. But none of the cars have been particularly bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    Did you check what brand tyres were on it.......maybe they were cheap "ditch finders"



  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mexicanvader


    Ordered mine (SVE 40) end of March and finally got it about three weeks ago. Price went up by €2,200 though. Really happy with the car overall. You might be lucky and get a call but I'd contact the dealer if I were you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Could have been alight. The dealer serviced it and it was sold the next day apparently, so must not have been too hard to sort out. Back to scouting for me again!



  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭Metalpanic


    Had a hard time finding this stated specifically in thread and online. Apologies if I missed it. Did the 2018 Leaf 40 come with 6.6 kW as standard?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Have a 171 30kWh leaf. 83,000km up on the clock, 3 bars now gone and SOH 72.19%. Got the car last year with 59,000km and it had 89% SOH. I knew something was up as it was degredating very quickly. Read up a bit about the update required but I'm not sure precisely what I needed done. I Dropped the car to nissan dealer today for a service and asked for the update to be done that was required due to miss readying of battery. They said there was a recall on the LIB controller which would be done also. I didn't know if this was the same thing?


    Got the car back and state of health is still only 72.19%.


    Is there a way to check if the update needed was done?


    Reading a lot saying they only lost a bar or two well over 100,000km.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    LIB controller doesn’t sound like the right one.


    I posted the exact one a few times on here. You can read it out on LeafSpy also via the advanced menu. If no one else posts it I’ll try to find it later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Cheers. I'm going to give them a buzz tomorrow but wouldn't mind knowing exactly what I'm looking for before calling them because definitely seems something isn't right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    That's definitely not right. For that sort of degradation you would need to exclusively fast charge the car every time. I have a 24kWh 2014 Leaf with similar miles and only 2 bars gone

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭RM Ernest


    This old post contains the info you need.

    If you've leaf spy, check your BMS firmware version. If 4A, it needs updating to 4C. The campaign No. is P8318. It was never a recall and just has to be asked for specifically.

    I got mine done years ago in belgard nissan.

    My 30kwh leaf just lost it's 2nd bar at 156k km.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    That's what I'm getting. I rang nissan dealer who serviced it. They told me they put the latest software on it and that the system they have tells them what the most recent one is. They said it should be reading 4NR6B now after their update and it was 4NR6A. They said there is no other update for my car. I mentioned about the degradation being high and they just fobbed it off and said unless it's 7 bars there is nothing to be done. I have 9 bars which is fine.


    This definitely isn't right but they were fairly adamant everything is fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    I think they are right in terms of no updates required. It was usually 161/162's that needed the update (i.e. the first L30's off the production line) and 171+ generally had the correct software already.

    The ones that needed the update showed "4NR4A 0605" and needed to go to "4NR4C 0611"

    The ones with 4NR6A did not have that software issue.

    So, you probably have some actual weak cells dragging your overall battery down rather than a software problem.

    Drive the car down to a low SoC (<10%) and look at the histogram of cell voltages in LeafSpy and LeafSpy should tell you if you have weak cells or not by showing up a banner with the weak cell numbers.

    Unfortunately, like the dealer says, there isn't much you can do until you hit the warranty limit of 70%, which doesn't look like its too far away so you'll just need to wait for that to happen and then look for a warranty fix.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The 4NR6A HV BATTERY is the out of date firmware version. There is 4NR6B update available. The HX=61.77% will probably lead to SOH of about 90% with the correct firmware based on somebody else's experience here:

    For our 2016 the firmware was 4NR4A->4NR4C but your 2017 has that f/w with '6'.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Just so you are aware the battery BMS can be reset to 100% and then driven around a short while to get it to 89%, thereafter the SOH will plummet to what it really should be at. Not saying this happened but just letting you know.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,041 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Anyone having issues with the Nissan EV app?

    Can't get mine to update the battery status. Last time it worked was 25th November.

    It still let's me start remote heating though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I stopped trying years ago. Completely unreliable and not fit for purpose. Nissan should be ashamed of themselves.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭Batesy


    Working fine here. V3.7.0 on Android.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Laviski


    i use myleaf by tobias. no issues with info/options.

    the provided app by nissan is just crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,041 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Working again now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mexicanvader


    Range question for you guys. I have a new 40kwh 2022 Leaf and my maximum range I've had in the two months of ownership was around 180km. City/town driving for the most part, so 50kmph max school run and to the shops, with eco mode and epedal on. With the colder weather this week, I've had a max of 140km range on a full charge. It seems on the lower end of what's expected, even being very frugal with climate control. Tyre pressure is showing 33psi in the morning. Would inflating to about 37/38psi drastically improve range?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭RM Ernest


    Are the majority of your trips all short? Sounds normal enough to me. You'll have a high enough consumption heating the car every time and a cold battery as well that won't heat up with driving. Cold batteries are less efficient.

    Tyre pressure and efficiency wise very little difference overall in between 33psi and 38psi.

    I've a 30kwh leaf and on my normal 100km round trip commute @ 80-100km/hr I get home with about 20% battery left at the moment. If doing just short trips from the house consumption is much higher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    IMO, 33PSI is way too low. I suspect that would have been nearer 36-37 in September- pressure drops with the cold.

    I drove my Leaf at 40 PSI with regular 1/4ly checks. I did have Leafspy and monitored to ensure a) PSI was balanced and b) not fluctuating.

    Also.when charging at home, try and plan your charges to end just before your journey starts, and pre-heat while plugged in...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Laviski


    i just checked today for the giggles, done 60 km with 0.18 kwh/km over 7 trips mostly City/town driving. That was with a pre heat in the morning to defrost the car with no overnight charge. consumption 10.26 kwH for the day. heat/aircon was on, fan at lowest setting.

    that is giving me over 200+km range if you break down those figures. (i know my SOH is 96% for 2020 car so if maintained that i should get 205km.)

    during summer i know i can get get my average down to 0.13 kwh/km when i want to. secret is not to have a heavy foot, yes you may have eco on but excessive acceleration (in City/town driving) only to stop again a few meters down the road is just going to cut into your range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Got a call from the dealer to say my Leaf (previously delayed until March this year since last years shortage) is in Dublin now.


    Bad news is the price is gone up around 2.5k but i guess that's the world we live in atm



  • Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Does myleaf work independently of Nissan connect entirely? We could never get Nissan connect to register our 22 leaf and garage were useless, just said car must not support it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Laviski


    You need to register with the main app first then you can use myleaf from there on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    39k on a PCP. Giving them 30%(11,700 cash) and paying off over 3 years.

    Family used the dealer many times before so not sure if when they said they're "looking after you", they were placating me or that's a genuine loyalty discount



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭RM Ernest


    What spec 62kwh leaf is it if you don't mind me asking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭jkforde


    apologies if asked before, but what's the sweet spot speed for cruising on the motorway (Eco B), I mean the point before range\kw really falls off the cliff

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Gile_na_gile


    About 105/110kmh if stop is required. Can drive regular 120kmh if in larger battery car and within range. Eco helps avoid heavy foot. Use D mode for cruising, B for steep downhill slopes or windy roads.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Eco doesn't make any difference in my opinion, just result in a dull drive. You can get the same result by just being careful with the throttle. if you use cruise control the Eco does absolutely nothing. The consumption on our old 40 kWh was quite good until indicated 110 km/h (~105 real speed) but quickly got very thirsty above that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭jkforde


    yeah, I set 111km/h (just like the number! 😂) B in cruise and it seems to be a decent balance between getting somewhere and not going over the battery drain cliff

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭homer911


    We have a 142 Leaf, 24Kwh and still have 100% battery and range from full of about 122 Km



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