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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Thanks again for the explainer. Had my wire's crossed / 2nd hand information. That might not be as bad alright as the Tuam Road build out. There are alot more HGV's and vans on that, however filtering passed stacked cars in the morn might be an issue until the Salthill Greenway is built.



  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭rustyfrog


    The new build-out is on the path of the proposed Greenway. It would need to be redone or removed. I've heard some say it's a deliberate obstacle by the council to a future trial cycle lane.

    Edit: I don't think there's political appetite for a trial now anyway as it got too division last time. I reckon it'll go straight to a full permanent solution with works that'll retain stretches of parking along the prom.

    Post edited by rustyfrog on


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,798 ✭✭✭✭zell12


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    I mentioned that the GTS has just gone to tender for it to be reviewed and updated with a release due Q3 2023.

    Well the Cork one was released a few months ago and today the Limerick one has just been released. Looking through the Limerick one gives a good idea of how the Galway transport strategy might be rejigged.

    The full document is available at

    Summary

    The core measures are

    • Improved frequency of public transport services to regeneration areas;
    • The provision of safe and secure cycling facilities;
    • The provision of pedestrian linkages to surrounding areas;
    • Public realm improvements;
    • Reducing the need to own a car and car dominance
    • and Managing the movement of Heavy Goods Vehicles

    Current mode share breaks down as follows with the planned shares listed also

    • Public transport - 4% grow to 13%
    • Walking - 23% grow to 33%
    • Cycling - 3% grow to 10-15%
    • Car - 70% reduce to 41%

    The mode share %'s for PT and cars are not called out the same way so its hard to say what the post implementation % is aimed to be e.g. for bus it states "156% increase in AM peak bus passengers between 2016 & 2040". There are also totals for each of the above called out in various sections which conflict so the %'s are a bit of a mess to be honest but the overall picture is clear regardless of which source in the doc you pick, cars are getting squeezed out and sustainable modes are getting prioritised.

    Walking

    • Priority at junctions
    • Increased permeability
    • Improved accessibility measures in line with universal access standards
    • Multiple audits of areas over the lifetime of the strategy to identify further opportunities for improvement

    Cycling

    • Bike lane network consisting of primary, secondary and feeder lanes with quality & safety level decreasing the further you move off primary
    • Expanded bike share scheme
    • Priority at traffic signals
    • Increase in parking provision
    • Inter-urban and greenway networks completed

    Public Transport

    Bus

    • 4 P&R locations proposed(Ennis rd, M20 raheen, N24 Ballysimon & M7 Mackey)
    • Bus connects
    • Roll out priority measures at multiple junctions
    • Higher frequency
    • More routes

    Rail

    • Dual tracking between colbert & limerick junction
    • upgrade Ballycar line
    • Improve commuter rail
    • New stations at Moyross and Ballysimon
    • Increase frequency
    • Upgrade existing stations

    Cars

    In terms of demand management for cars, theres a lot planned

    • New developments, removal of parking requirements for near city and significantly reduced requirements for parking provision in suburbs
    • Maximum parking provision will be applied in future
    • Undeveloped residential on well served routes must be high density with low parking provision
    • car-free area within 800m of Limerick city center
    • A steady reduction in on-street parking until it is no longer provided (with a few exceptions e.g. blue badge spaces)
    • Increase parking costs
    • Increase costs of parking permits
    • Alternatives to car ownership e.g. bike share, car clubs, bike storage, PT provision, P&R's
    • Traffic signal optimization towards walking, cycling & PT and lower priority for main car lanes
    • If the above does not lead to a significant modal shift congestion charges will be brought in to further discourage the use of cars in the city

    One of the main drivers behind the measures planned is the strategy is now required to meet the national emissions reduction target of 50% emissions by 2030. The document as it stands states it can achieve a 35% reduction. It lists 3 options to achieve the last 15%

    • Increase fuel prices to discourage the use of petrol/diesel
      • Ruled out as not feasible as it is controlled at a national level
    • Increase the amount of emission free vehicles (cars & LGV & HGV) to include battery and hydrogen
      • Possible to do by working with the likes of delivery stakeholders and setting up hubs for last mile low emission delivery modes
      • Not likely to achieve the desired reduction though
    • Implement a congestion charge/low emission zone/tolls
      • A feasible option which can significantly reduce the volume of emissions
      • Not for implementation, yet, but not ruled out for later application

    More Pretty Pictures

    There's loads I haven't covered and its about 150 pages long so feel free to waste a morning going through it yourselves



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,902 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Limerick forum is ------>> way



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  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭rustyfrog


    What bit of "Limerick one gives a good idea of how the Galway transport strategy might be rejigged" was confusing MrsOB?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Roscam bike lane works starting shortly

    Galway City Council, in conjunction with the National Transport Authority, are pleased to announce the commencement of construction works on the Doughiska Road South Cycle Network Scheme Project. The project will deliver improved cycling facilities and associated improvements to footpaths involving the realignment of kerbs, signalisation of the Ros Caoin Junction, the provision of cycle lanes, footpaths and associated landscaping. There will be significant traffic management on the scheme, which will be performed in phases. Delays to traffic flow through the works are anticipated, however disruption will be minimised as much as possible.



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    Paid parking coming to Leisureland next week


    From Wednesday 7th December, Leisureland will start utilising the newly-installed car barrier system.

    Gym & pool members of Leisureland including Swimming Academy members will continue to have access to complimentary parking. The paid parking will ensure better availability and a better service to members and other users of the facilities. In addition, new bike parking stations have been installed at the front and side entrances of Leisureland. In addition, Twenty-two car parking spaces in the front section have been reserved as a set down area.

    The paid parking facility will ensure a safer experience for patrons and issues such as cars parking on grass areas and on pavements on busy days in the area will be prevented.

    The cost of parking in Leisureland will be €2 per hour or €12 for the day. No camping or overnight parking will be allowed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,798 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    issues such as cars parking on grass areas and on pavements on busy days in the area will be prevented.

    Teehee 😆



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭kabakuyu




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    I'm not sure why this isn't going to run the full length of the coast road, its been suggested for years




  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭rustyfrog


    I'd prefer if they keep it focused on the link between the town and the train station and get it done quickly. Otherwise they let the scope creep and end up in endless loops of planning and consultations until it doesn't get beyond a mention in a development plan.

    Just get it done. That'll build (induced) demand, the connection along the rest of the coast road can be an obvious follow-up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭salonfire


    We should also stop building new schools, new medical centers, new shops, new garda stations as the population grows.

    Let's apply the same logic as we do with roads. Keep the same capacity but use it more efficently. Have teachers teach remotely for example. Have GPs see people remotely.

    Increasing demand is seen as not a reason to build roads, why should increasing demand see these other services increased?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,902 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    What you are suggesting is making more efficient use of existing resources. 100% agree we should do that. Medical centres absolutely should be 7am to 7pm.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭cgcsb




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭salonfire


    No I'm not.

    It is generally expected that as population and therefore demand increasing services and infrastructure increases likewise.

    But now for some reason this cannot apply to roads. Instead we have to make do with what is there.

    No more hospital beds should be built. If someone is having a heart attack tell them it's their fault for not staying healthy. Much the same way we tell people stuck in traffic it's their fault. "You are traffic" is the go to phrase I believe.

    No more housing should be built. Why does every house have a kitchen that is only used twice a day. That's inefficient. Stick a bed or two there. Gotta do more with what we already have to show the world how green we are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭rustyfrog


    Roads don't scale like that. Just look at the traffic modeling that Arup did within the ring road application; the proposed road doesn't do much/anything to ease traffic congestion in the city - it just causes local changes. Traffic would be locked up coming from and to the new road.

    There are better ways of scaling our capacity to move people around the city as the population grows, that doesn't equal building additional roads.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,107 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    I feel most of that will go over the posters head, best to leave them to the rant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭salonfire


    How interesting. Nobody accepts we should stop building housing, schools, medical facilities, etc to meet demand.

    Only road building should be stopped.

    It's almost like an ideology has taken over.



  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Building more hospitals won't induce people to have more heart attacks.

    Building roads will induce more traffic and, arguably and ironically, more heart attacks due to encouraging more sedentary car based lifestyles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    You cannot build more roads to cater for the demand that exists - unlike hospitals, houses, schools - the demand for roads related to transport to a given place.

    You can build plenty of hospitals in east galway or west galway, to cater for demand for hospital resources in those areas.

    You cannot build more roads in east and west galway to cater to the commuter demand into galway city - the pinch point here is galway city itself, and in galway city there is no more space for roads. Its simply been exhausted.

    Parkmore has mad traffic jams daily - where would you build a new road to fix that traffic?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,879 ✭✭✭✭Discodog




  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭rustyfrog


    It's in the ring road application. Data from peak morning traffic. 97% of journeys start in and/or end within the city. Only 3% looking to bypass.



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    Its in the planning application in a few parts of it, below is one example

    You can find the full list of all docs at the following




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