Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

"I see it first hand" 🙂

Fair enough then please show me the micro and macro financials you have to prove that.

So a hotel that normally closes for months over the winter offers more labour hours than a hotel open and at FULL capacity for 12 months? Nonsense.

Local businesses suffer from hotels that don't shut for off-peak season? What about Food suppliers? Toiletries suppliers? Energy suppliers? Cleaning/Maintenance resources? Laundry suppliers? Medical staff/supplies?

Yes the hotel owners benefit but many other locals do too. Perhaps not the publicans but so what.

I'm Galway but I know Clare very well. Places like Lisdoon, Ennistymon and Ballyvaughan are busy in summer but ghost towns in winter.

Not a chance hotel occupancy with refugees is generating more revenue. Bunratty castle hotel for e.g., is busy all year, popular for weddings, work nights etc, Radisson always busy for weddings, conferences, training, the Park hotel again proximity to Shannon airport made it popular. All the ancillary industries benefitting from presence of tourists is markedly reduced; less purchase from food/drinks companies, less car/taxi hire, skeleton staff in hotels - no bar staff, weekly cleaning of rooms as opposed to daily, reduced admin/reception/kitchen/waiting staff etc. Locals living in the areas particularly Ballyvaughan, Kilkee have expressed concerns re: negative effects on businesses/locals who benefit from the tourist trade. Big difference between spending of daily/short stay visitors, with quick turnover and those long term, tourists inevitably have greater disposable income - all of this is common sense. The only benefit is to the hotel owners - the surrounding businesses and community are not financially benefiting from this.

Prove me wrong with financial metrics. Show me occupancy figures in your 8 months too.

For example, in 2018 the room occupancy rate in Ireland for Mid-Price/Economy level hotels was 68% on average.

The Connemara Gateway hotel in Oughterard is now utterly destroyed. It was bad to begin with but it has been let go to complete rack and ruin since the protest. It cannot be refurbished now. It will be knocked. Result for the locals I guess.

Huge result for the town to lose a hotel and the money/jobs the hotel refurbishment would have brought? Nope, very silly. Idiotic. No foresight. The locals that did oppose the asylum seekers were badly advised by more idiots.

It will be difficult to put rich Americans into a hotel that doesn't exist.

My honour is just fine Bingo and you can call me Cluedo 😉

Fine Gael promised last year to end direct provision by 2024.

The hotel in Oughterard is completely destroyed now (deliberately I suspect) so there will be no accommodation for anyone there.

What's the revenue model now?

Well connected owners?

Any hotel owner would be accepted into the scheme at this point. And could you blame them for applying? You would do the same if you owned a hotel. It will helpc clear Covid debts.

If the non asylum seeker business model was more lucrative, they would stay at it.

Exactly, the refugee industry is more lucrative. Problem is only a tiny number of individuals are benefiting and are being made insanely rich.

We couldn't even get Irish people to work in hotels in recent years. It was beneath them for the most part. It was all Eastern Europeans and they worked hard. Since Covid it's very difficult to get decent chefs and other hotel staff.

simple.. you get on the aircraft with a passport…. If you don’t have it on arrival, you get interviewed, if in the opinion of the GNIB member it’s not been genuinely mislaid, you are detained and sent back…

a better option would be for the origin airport to scan it and upload it but I doubt they have the wherewithal technology wise, training with all going on, plus they would probably collude in certain situations..

Return to sender. Send them back to original point. Let them sort it. It's where that person started out. Easier trace. Onus is on them anyway.

Not the country they just stepped into. Iv never understood this policy at all.

He/ she boarded with documents presumably and was approved boarding there so it's on them to sort it

If you want to effectively stamp out the practice, start doing what they did in some countries that were having a problem with illegals stowing away in trucks, you fine the airline a thousand Euro for everybody they transport that can't produce their documents or ground the plane until they are found.

You wouldn't believe how fast that fix the problem.

I don't know if you have ever flown, but the checks are quite significant.

There is already potentially huge fines for airlines if someone slips through these checks. Equating an airline with "illegals" stowing away in the back of a truck is nonsensical, also the fines have not fixed the problem there either.

If someone refuses to show or destroys their documentation on the way to an emigration desk in a port, grounding the plane or ferry until it is searched is rather impractical in real life.

So in reality your "solution" will fix nothing, it will just hurt business and people who do actually travel.