Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

I wouldn’t say everyone hate H&M. Harry was very well thought of but he is now just being silly, and his people aren’t even good at it. I am sure you have seen the footage from Netflix already exposed as fabricated and nothing whatsoever to do with him. Most people greatly respect his service with the armed forces and are just a bit sad about what has happened.

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She really does seem to have it in for Catherine. Maybe it's because Catherine has everything that Meghan wants.

It didn’t work the first time (Oprah) and so they are doing it all again now (Netflix). The whole thing will be another exercise in deflection as to the likely reasons why they stepped down. Their egos got overinflated by a combination of commission based advisors telling them they were potentially worth a billion and their own personality flaws in choosing to believe their own hype.

They thought they were bigger than the institution. Unlike the dowdy rest of them, they had the star power in lieu of actual intellect or talent and in the vacuous world of La La Land celebrity they thought this would be sufficient or that Royal branding would allow them to jump the proverbial queue via endorsements, merching etc. In fairness this royal seal of approval is potentially worth lots of money but it simply is not for sale.

They'd reportedly been bullying staff as it was and it would be no stretch to presume they thought they could bully the family as well into getting their cake and eating it via half-in half-out. They must have thought the Royal family needed them and their star power more than Harry and Meghan needed them. How wrong they were. They wanted to be free to go all in commercially and with no restrictions (e.g. Sussex Royal) and free to come and go as they pleased to replenish their brand with the optics of royalty (high profile events with media coverage rather than the multitude of bread and butter meet n’ greets which go unnoticed beyond local medias).

It was always going to be a non-runner and dead set against what the boring reality of what British royalty was. In parallel, Meghan, who is a nobody beyond the royal connection, was laying the manipulative groundwork from the off in order to ensure Harry was onboard with their stateside gambit. She was unhappy, the press intrusion statement when no one knew who she was, suicide ideation, lawsuits against the media etc. They were politely told to f*ck off in a manner of words about half in and half out and told it was either all in or all out. They were likely irked by actually having to make a decision to that end. When no quarter was given about their demands then that's when everything changed.

They left and Covid lockdowns coincided with their leaving and the world began getting sick and tired of the very “famous for being famous” celebrity lifestyle the Sussexes envisaged for themselves. The hollowness of celebrity set against dedicated people tackling a pandemic sunk their plans The Oprah interview and now this series are done to manipulate us. We're supposed to think they were right to escape, right to protect themselves, right to fight back. They need to be right and are willing to do whatever it takes to be proven so. If they touted privacy concerns, went splitsies with Charles on security and then laid low then nobody would care.

In doing this they have tripped themselves up again and any sincerity from them is drowned out by their falsehoods. This won't be a story of a man and his wife who successfully extricated themselves from a toxic environment, one which affected their mental health and one which we the audience should applaud. It will be a series, aimed at an American audience, with the express goal of smearing, slandering and defining as racist villains those people who have the capacity to tell the world that it is actually Harry and Meghan who are the problem all along. The series is them again getting ahead of the headlines and benefit from the conservative and non-committal response strategy of the royal machine i.e. make accusations, hope they stick and by the time a response is delivered people have already made up their minds about their “truth”.

I like Kate but if you think her image isn't heavily influenced by the monarchy's PR guru's I think you’re being very nieve.

I doubt too many in the RF are allowed be their true authentic self, in public anyway.

Imagine how William must feel. The eve of the bombshell documentary, with his wife getting exploited for content in it, his brother accepting an award for calling his family racist and the organisers presenting his brother with a photograph of their mother as 1500 people clap him. His piss must be boiling but I suppose that is the point of all of this.

Two absolute attention seeking cretins.

it's the other way around, meghan has what kate wants.

neither are bitter about the other in reality i suspect, just hammed up.

Anything that damages the Royal family is only a good thing.

Outdated nonsense.

Can you explain what meghan has that Kate would want

Theres very little actual content in this, I forwarded most of it. Seems overly reliant on clips & Harry seems very bitter, trotting out the same lines again & again.

Meghan saying that the royal engagement interview was an orchestrated reality show on an orchesrated reality show with no sense of irony tells me straight away that this whole thing is a dud.