Are Mick Wallace and Clare Daly Irelands greatest shame?

He also attempted to distract and deflect from the discussion about Qatar abuses in the context of the soccerball World Cup by kicking off shouting that the US should not be allowed to host the next one due to them suppressing all human rights over there (or some such sh1te).

Germany could ask the US to vacate their bases in the morning - France did exactly that in the late 1960s and didn't become a pariah state or anything.

Gibraltar and Guantanamo are the result of international treaties from long ago, if countries should be able to just do what they like regardless of agreements or laws we're left with.... the attempted destruction of Ukraine among many other things we'd rather not happen.

It'd be funny if it wasn't for the people dying. 🙄

France was an ally of the US, Germany wasn't. I clearly remember British jets screaming past about 50 feet above my head back in the day when I worked in Germany.

As for Gibraltar and Guantanamo, they both came about as a result of wars, and the victors took what they wanted. Cuba was not a belligerent, but officially a part of Spain, along with the Philipines and Puerto Rico, IIRC. The Americans in that case were the warmongers, they used an accident as their excuse to go to war.

So whatever about Gibraltar and the Wars of the Spanish Succession - isn't it just a little disingenuous to call the outcome of the Spanish American War an "international treaty"? I think the Chinese have a term for this sort of thing: unequal treaties. The Brits on the other hand called it Gunboat Diplomacy.

Total nonsense.

West Germany was a US ally before it joined NATO in 1955, the unified Germany is also.

Treaties between nations being an outcome of wars - who knew! 🙄

Whether a treaty is 'unequal' or not is a matter of opinion - but in the end it's military and economic power which determines whether treaties are renegotiated or not.

Yet Austria ended up neutral and unified, neither zone of occupation was forced to join an alliance.

West Germany saw it in its interest to join and stay in NATO, the example of France proved that they could have left at any time.

Anyway none of your whataboutery is at all relevant to the topic of this thread, Daly and Wallace's unwavering support for mass murderers provided they're anti-Western.

An ally in the sense that "it was on the US team". Where it had to be, as it was a US vassal state. It has greater freedom to carry out an independent foreign policy today, owing to several factors, including the existence of the EU as a bloc of which a united Germany is the powerhouse, the disappearance of the USSR, and of course the relative decline in the strength of the USeconomy and the rise of China and the other BRICS.

With the election of President Lula in Brazil, Wallace and Daly are now less isolated politically.

Many Brazilians in Ireland support Lula.

Lula said Zelensky was "as responsible as Putin for the war".

He also said "it’s not just Putin who is guilty. The US and the EU are also guilty."

She wasn't missed when I said it in April and she isn't missed now.

There are a lot of Brazilians in Dublin, never mind Europe. Plenty in the US also. I'm not sure whether their population has the same appetite for emigrating to Russia. Anyone got any stats to prove me wrong?

If there were well paying jobs a-plenty in Russia, and none here, they probably would.

Emigration doesn't have much to do with 'values' imo.

You could say that about anyone including Wallace and Daly surely.

She believed than infertile people had no right to get married.

"marriage is primarily about children, main purpose being to propagate and create"