Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

I'll get you that poll ASAP. I may be wrong but I would have thought having pro life as something on your manifesto would make a political party a no for the majority of people nowadays. Then again I don't know middle aged many housewives from Roscommon.

So a 1 billion euro hit to the economy per year. And will only get worse. Wasn't there a guy on here a few days ago saying it actually generates money ha. Some people.

I work in the industry (not directly in a hotel but with many hotels)

I've been saying this since day one,it's unbelievable how some people can't join the dots.As I have said on here before it doesn't matter if they can't see it now,it will become very apparent to even the most simple of simpletons from next season.

My own business will be gone next summer as a direct result of this policy.Our insurance is paid up until mid July so we will run til then if it makes sense,if not (as I expect to be the case) we just won't open next season.

The one billion Euro hit as outlined in the article is only the tip of the iceberg.It is based off figures as of today and doesn't include the 10s of thousands who will come between now and next season. It also doesn't include the expenditure on refugees which is approximately 3 billion next year.People are angry about the children's hospital, this equates to 2 children's hospitals every year and that figure is only going up as more and more come.

I'm not anti refugee, I've been lumped in with fringe lunatics by some of the more naive posters on here.We need a plan to deal with what's here and what's coming.

I don't have much faith in any party to do this,look how they dealt with the first wave......destroyed our biggest indigenous industry and then told us we need to do more.

The one billion Euro hit as outlined in the article is only the tip of the iceberg.It is based off figures as of today and doesn't include the 10s of thousands who will come between now and next season. It also doesn't include the expenditure on refugees which is approximately 3 billion next year.People are angry about the children's hospital, this equates to 2 children's hospitals every year and that figure is only going up as more and more come.

The €1Bn hit in the article refers to lost earnings to the tourism sector, that’s not the same as a €1Bn hit to the economy, and that figure is based on the numbers of hotel rooms being used for humanitarian purposes rising to 30%, from 24%. The €1Bn projected loss DOES appear to include a rise in projected numbers of refugees and a projected rise in demand for hotel rooms.

People are angry about the rising costs of the construction of the children’s hospital, because the initial estimate for it was €800m in 2014, it’s currently double that now, and is scheduled to be completed in 2024 with nobody able to put a figure on the final cost. But, at the end of it we will have a children’s hospital which will serve the needs of the public.

The tourism sector isn’t really comparable in any sense with the provision of public services, and when hotels are increasing prices to offset the costs of running the business, a drop in occupancy rates is entirely to be expected because people just won’t be willing to pay it. Some people can still afford to pay it, like my young lad he booked himself a stay recently in a four star hotel and there was no issue with getting a room. The hotel owners and staff were only too delighted to be able to accommodate refugees too.

Government haven’t destroyed the tourism industry, they’re trying to deal with a humanitarian disaster, while the tourism sector appears to be no different than any other sector of the economy which is experiencing the rising cost of doing business, and can’t get the staff -

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2022/11/28/energy-costs-now-account-for-up-to-12-of-a-hotels-revenues/

What’s happening is having a global effect, it’s not just having a negative effect on the tourism sector, it’s affecting all business sectors in Ireland, and in reality there’s actually very little the Irish Government can do about it on their own, and it’s not just you our Government is asking to do more, they’re asking the same of everyone.

How are they not getting the staff? Because the staff aren’t there!

As any business tries to do, they’re trying to keep their labour costs as low as they can, and people aren’t willing to work under the conditions they’re being offered which don’t reflect the reality of the rising costs of living and working in Ireland for any potential employees.

It would appear so. It used to be the case that there would always be people willing to do the jobs other people wouldn’t, but even that doesn’t appear to apply any more.

Probably has something to do with all the comforts being gifted to them as soon as they landed.

For now.

Won't be long before they are either moved to full rate supports and given a home to call their own.

or

Ride it out a bit longer while taking their case to the courts which ends up costing millions.

Either way it's nothing but a bad deal for the country.

But it's surely not for the public or a section of the public to decide who is or who isn't a genuine refugee. That can really only be done by the authorities working with our own asylum laws and international refugee law.

It would be a bit like me trying to decide from the comfort of my armchair who is eligible to receive social welfare payments and who isn't.

This keeps happening. Painting people protesting as far right and racists.

I can only tell you about my local one in Newbridge. I live nearby the proposed location. I could walk to it in 10mins. The people had genuine concerns with regard to the location and services effected (schools, doctors). There were no far right nutters present in that crowd that I saw.

I suspect the east wall one was similar but people found one person with a grudge and decided everyone else must be a racist.

People have to be allowed protest and be heard. The media and entire government, including the opposition, are all on the same hymn sheet, all with their heads in the sand, pretending we are a rich country and the taxpayer will swallow all this cost to them financially and socially.

Well there ya go, you were wrong in thinking that.

I think unemployment with the Nigerians is around 60-70%.

They came here feeling war and persecution etc etc years ago.

Are they all still living on 46 euro a week?

Im pretty sure the majority are in houses while the majority of them are unemployed.

Can you square that circle for me?

Wait it out long enough and, well we all know what happens except yourself and a few others who are in denial with your hands firmly over your ears.

Well you are dead wrong on that one, protests do get results.

The tide is turning and the push back has begun against these young men coming here with their made up stories.