My son wants a gaming pc, need some advice though.

Based on the above, I would look at something like this:

which leaves up to €300 spare to spend on a 1440p monitor.

The graphics card is very good for that price range and while the storage/ram is quite small, it would be plenty to get you up and running and you could upgrade at a later date (Graphics cards are often the most expensive to upgrade as they are ridiculously expansive and you have to replace the existing card whereas you can typically simply add more ram/storage as and when you need it). The only issue is that the website gives no details as to the motherboard used (or even the case internals), so hard to see specifically what upgrade paths are available. Definitely worth confirming the number of ram and m.2 slots on the motherboard. Ideally you would have 4 ram slots (2 of which are being used) and at least 3 M.2 slots (1 of which is being used) to enable you to expand the memory/storage.

This. People completely go over-board on the "future-proof" and "upgrade down the line" angle, if you buy a solid base now, firstly you won't need to upgrade anything for a few years and secondly, even at that the only thing you'd likely add is a new graphics card.

The upgrading down the line angle only really makes sense when you're buying a low-end machine to begin with because you can't afford anything better.

By the time for example a Ryzen 5700 needed upgrading, the whole machine would need replacing as the entire platform that PC is built on would be totally obsolete.

A PC with a Ryzen 5700 and 6800XT would last anyone years, but especially a kid. In fact a decent PC with something like an RTX3060 and a nice 1080P monitor would cost about €1,200 for the bundle and last for years without touching it.

I've had a Ryzen 5700 and 3060Ti (cost €1,100) with a 1080P 240hz monitor for the past year and I doubt I'll be changing anything for a few more years and I would consider myself more on the enthusiast level that likes to run games at high/ultra.

Wouldn't consider them at all when you can get better machines from actual legit retailers for the same money.

Again, you are over-thinking the upgrade part. A PC of that level won't need touching for 5+ years, and at that point you'd probably be looking at a new PC rather than upgrading it, as upgrade options would be limited and superseded by far newer/better technology.

Upgrade potential mostly refers to lower end builds, not to higher-end ones. EG if you bought a machine now for €800 with a Ryzen 3600 and an RX6600, it would run the latest games well and there's loads of rooms there to upgrade to a Ryzen 5800 and newer graphics card in 2 or 3 years time.

But when you're buying a base €1,500 machine, you're already buying close to the ceiling of that platform - and in a few years time anything you could upgrade to would still be far slower than the latest generation, new processors.

So just buy the best machine you can for €1,500 and you won't have to think about a thing for at least 5 years.

Paradagit used to be called komplett and were very popular at one stage.

The 1st paradigit one is €200 more expensive than the lenovo. For that, you get:

• a slightly better cpu
• twice as much ram
• twice as much storage
• a slightly worse graphics card.

As this is for gaming, even if they were the same price, I would go for the lenovo (the paradigit's GPU will be the bottleneck), but for a €200 difference, it's pretty clear who the winner is.

Remember, the ram/storage can be added to at a later date, when they will be cheaper than today's prices. I would stick with 0.5TB - 1TB max and 16GB for now and put the money into the CPU, and especially the GPU. Given the prices for storage are constantly decreasing, why pay for something at today's prices when it will be cheaper by the time you need it. Similar with RAM, you can add another 16GB/32GB at a later date as and when you need it.

As for the second paradigit, by the time you upgrade the graphics card, it's even more expensive and inferior to the 1st one!

I can't see the point of a gaming PC to be honest when an XBox Series X or PS5 will give you 4K 60 FPS HDR or even 120 FPS for 500 quid with zero messing around.

You could then add a cheap laptop on top of that for PC stuff like programming, school, office stuff. Or even a raspberry pi for peanuts.

More options. 😂😂😂 Sorry !

Sold out now from what I can see.

That was very strange pricing. Has to have been a mistake somewhere. The graphics card alone was worth more than the entire PC. Even if a student didn't want it, they could sell it on eBay at a nice profit. Or strip it for parts and do likewise.