"Green" policies are destroying this country

There is much talk here of how 100GW wind farm doesnt give you 100GW all of the time yet little to no acceptance that 100GW of Nuclear also doesnt give you 100GW all of the time. Its like there are some glow in the dark tinted glasses or something.

So now we are to populate the country with wind & solar farms, not for our own direct needs but so we can sell into other markets? This Green Tech stuff is just pure capitalism.

All of us need to wake us and realise that switching to an electrical system entirely based on unreliable random generation, will rapidly put us in a life and death situation like Ukrainian people find themselves today (albeit for different reasons). When the wind stops blowing and the solar panels are covered in snow, when all our cars are electric and boilers replaced by heat pumps, where will energy come from? Demand for electricity will surge, but there won’t be enough supply. The grid will implode.

Right now Germany is facing de-industrialisation due to energy shortages, In the Netherlands, farmers are facing a land grab by their government, In Switzerland their lockdown plans call for electric cars to be banned from the road unless it is an emergency, cuts in shop opening hours and entertainment venues, even internet streaming services will be curtailed. France has already planned load shedding in worst case.

Wait until Irish voters are told they can’t fly to Costa Del Sol or Alicante, that meat will be taxed, or that power cuts will be the new normal to comply with netzero. If Irish and other European governments think they will get away with climate lockdowns, they are reading the room incorrectly.

The International Energy Agency would not be paying the bills. Like everything else a nations economy and financial viability will be the deciding factors.

Last year I doubt if the International Energy Agency would have said that Germany would be burning anything they can get there hands on now.

We, even more so that many others, have been building wind turbines onshore and we now see that 35% is around as good as it is going to get. That is not going to get us off fossil fuels ever.

Now with that reaisation, and something that many pointed out long before now, the great white hope of greens is offshore wind and storage and the cost of that will be enormous. So large that it runs every chance of completely bankrupting the country along with a large increase in electricity charges.

People really didn`t pass much remarks on renewables up to now, other than asking where was this cheap energy we were promised. Once it becomes obvious what the rest of this ideology is going to cost then will people be happy to to pay the price ? I very much doubt that, and when you see the latest reports from the turbine manufacturers, it looks like others doubt it too.

I'm sure you can Google it yourself but yes, the idea is to become a net exporter of energy as the total generated would be far more than we would need ourselves.

Jeeze.

Ok, lets say it is what it is (which is illogical but how and ever!) please do the maths and work out the total energy output per $ invested for fossil fuels, nuclear and renewables. Now, of course using your own rules, you need to start back before the industrial revolution and use inflation.

We will then see just exactly what it is.

Oh and FYI, 50% and even 250% are nothing when you have non linear growth. A nice example of this is non linear consumption of a finite resource.

Pft thats just facts though.

Your argument only makes sense if the sun and the wind and the sea are going to be with us forever, yunno, like nuclear waste.

There are significant environmental costs you do realise associated with wind farm construction. Have you ever visited say the Galway Wind Park - biggest construction project in it's day in the state from what I saw. There's no free lunch.

Just another typical post from greens. Not a single clue what our proposal will cost or even if it will work, but yours is going to be more expensive.

I already have posted the minimum that just the offshore section of this 30 Gigawatts plan will cost. I have shown what either of the three bids for Poland`s first nuclear plants for the same domestic output from nuclear would cost compared too the 30 Gigawatt plan. I have also pointed out that the with the offshore plan the strike price for domestic consumers would be double + having all the construction costs, production costs, storage costs and distribution costs for hydrogen added on top. I have no intention of wasting my time re-posting all that for just your convenience. It`s all there, if you have a specific problem with the costing then get back to me with your own.

Oh and FYI those are the figures globally for nuclear, wind and solar where those go in the future who knows. What I do know is there is basically no resource that can be channeled without some element required being finite.

There is no point comparing any Irish nuclear solution to Polands or any other for thr simple reason that there is no political will to go down the nuclear route currently. At the moment only the Workers Party (current TDs zero I believe?) are pro-nuclear. Even if there is some wild swing politically pro nuclear in the next few years (which isn’t out of the realms of possibilities) we have to first change our legislation to allow it, and then to regulate it. Then into design. There is litterally zero chance of any of that happening within 10 years. On top of that it would be a minimum 5 years between planning, ABP and the high court. Given that you’re now at 15 year plus, the figures you’re quoting for something you say is comparable are absolutely irrelevant.

Yeah, 25 sounds about the minimum, and even then that would have to be with public and political backing I.e one of SF/Ff/Fg to run on a pro-nuclear platform in 2025 and then deliver when in office.

it’s never happening in a million years.