No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Heating here is an oil boiler, but we have a stove that also heats the water and the rads. Little bit of coal and a bucket of sticks runs it for the day. There does be some heat out of it, water in the tap does be near boiling. Once you get the heat into the house we have good insulation to retain it. Just keep a little bit in the fire to keep it tipping over and its perfect. You don't get near the same heat out of the oil and thankfully we use very little of it. In this cold weather a bag of coal and a good wheel barrow of stick (free from the farm) will last just over a week. €500 of coal should see us out for the winter.

I do wounder about the heat pumps and geothermal I am guess at the minute it would be costing €5 - €6 a day to run these so it would still be more expensive than my wee stove.

Looking at a renovation job in with work, the its the restoration of an old house with an extension, client initially was all sure about installing a heat pump. BER consultant has talked them out of it, as next to impossible to get air tightness on a 100 year old house. Plus running cost and as you said @_Brian there would be a high possibility of after spending all the money the house would still be cold. However the client is going to pack as much insulation in as possible, with breather membrane and internal lime plaster render internal and external to help prevent interstitial condensation.

Ah ive mine in a good 13 years now and wouldn't change it tbh.

Trouble free bar one thing which cost €200 to fix. I think ye may be thinking of thr air to water system which is the most wide spread. I've the horizontal system which is abit more awkward to put in on day one but is "supposed" to be the most efficient of the lot of them

Yea I have a b2 rated house. Only 3 years old. I have the a2w and find it excellent. Now the next week will be expensive but average over the year is very economically.

We live in mild and ever varying climate here. An oil burner and rads are hard beat for versatility. Zone on control panel and simply shut the door on rooms you aren’t in, a few minutes boost when the room your in needs it. Underfloor, geo thermal and so on are probably marvellous in a Nordic climate but we rarely have sustained periods of real cold.

good ceiling insulation is the number one factor, air tightness is all well and good but fresh air has to circulate in a house for your health imo.

Geothermal works best in the likes of our mild climate. The more moist the soil is around the pipes the better the heat exchange

Was just saying that to someone there, England are favourites now for it.. God help us all having to listen to that if they win.

Lads if they win it or not let us have a look at ourselves. 32 years since a piss poor World Cup performance and a penalty shootout win against Romania in the second round. And we still rave about it. We watch English football every week. Let’s all get real here please 😁😁

I would say they are good enough all right. Croatia with one shot on target and score. That’s just massive luck imo. Look at the euro finals. Italy won that and could not even qualify for the World Cup. A re Italy better then England no chance but that’s football you need luck

Quare cute goal by the dutch, look like they will win it now.

Have to agree with that too.

The whole underage football system here is very poor. These are the future and they are being left behind unfortunately.

We are going through it at the minute, an awful lot of who you are and other bullshit. Talent not noticed due to this. Very hard to watch some of the goings on.

Got into the county panel here for gaa, but he decided to stick with soccer.

What do ye think of the world cup in December? Hopefully it will be back in the summer next time