Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Saw the report referred to on Newstalks social media accounts a couple days ago. Was pleasantly surprised to see most comments not having much sympathy for people who live near an airport complaining about the noise of overhead planes.

The runway is built and in use. There is nothing that’s going to stop the ramp up to it being fully operational, and it’s only going to get busier from here on in! I know it might sound harsh but that’s the reality of it!

If the airport had been built from scratch within the last 10 years, with only a few years planning process, I'd have some sympathy for the homeowners.

But DUB has been operating for over 80 years now, with high levels of commercial traffic for 60 odd years. Anyone whos bought (or built) a house near the airport was well aware of it beforehand.

With modern navigation systems, there would be very little excuse for not following the SID precisely. However some departures are given a non-standard climbout, e.g. to track 330 degrees, to facilitate traffic flow. In truth the population in the area north of the airport is sparse but it would be impossible to avoid flying over someone's house whatever the route taken.

The issue appears to be the “pilot interpreted” initial first turn to the first point. Then the handover to the autopilot to pick up the SID. Look on FR24 and you will see many different versions flown and not one standard. The problem is the turn is actually flown tighter than many expected or were told.

However I’ve seen complaints on here from people who have aircraft flying over them that are above 3000ft, just some info, there is noise restrictions anywhere in Ireland once the aircraft is above 3000ft. The loudest complainant was actually being buzzed by aircraft that were above 3000ft. He was told they would actually be about .5 to 1 mile west of him. In reality that won’t change the noise he gets much.

End of the day, no matter where the aircraft fly they will be noisy for someone and as many have already said you can’t move them much anyway as the number of affected people will rocket.

The DAA are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. I live 20 miles from the airport and still hear and see airplanes, should I complain to ? Ultimately this problem was always going to happen, it happens near every major airport. People on this forum just need to ignore and move on.

"Enormously wealthy authorities"? These are public bodies, not some sort of private entities, and the country is struggling enough to house people who don't have a home.

My look at it, is that the early turns off 28R are actually facilitating the departures being further away from the much higher population areas around Ashbourne and Ratoath if they were to take just a 15 degree variance. Getting the turn in early flies most heading East over manly rural North County Dublin.

The big complaints will start will happen once the morning waves proper are opened up, even if it’s from 07:00 for now.

First turn is 650ft, but not before the departure end of the runway.

I’d say what’s upsetting residents is more the trans Atlantic departures which are naturally bigger and louder, lower in the climb and they are typically routing directly over Ashbourne and Ratoath as their head West as we can see on EI105 today. Most of the TA’s take this routing which makes sense as they are heading West.

Higher passenger fares it is then. Cost of doing business.

Not sure if this is the right thread, first day of proper cold weather and some serious delays and issues at Dublin this morning. Looks like ground crews struggling to de-ice aircraft on time, backlog keeps building. Large chunk of the 6am wave only on their way well after 8am.

Some inbound aircraft being held on taxiways as stands aren't free.

Strong figures

It's not even on stand yet.

10 aircraft currently on the ground with no stands available

They don't even have enough staff to handle the normal operations. Cold weather de-icing work is usually an extra job that needs even more staff to handle. Presumably these staff are pulled from another already very stretched part of ground ops, making delays build up even more. These delays are at the door of the airlines and their ground handling partners rather than DAA. From my looking at it, the airport stayed operational last night. Those cheap fares will eventually cause problems when there aren't enough staff to handle these winter events.

Were they not able to clear the snow off 28R today? Doesn’t seem to have been in operation at all this morning. Adding to delays no doubt