Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Why?

ok so the person gets off the plane, goes to passport control, claims asylum or whatever. so you're telling me they just march the guy back to the plane he came from or what? they have no idea who he is, they wouldn't let him on the plane. what plane do they bring him to exactly? and how would you establish their identity even if you contacted the place they flew from?

"we've a georgian looking bloke here, no information about him, can you tell us who he is? he wont tell us what plane he was on either or he could be lying about where he came from"

the airline wont let him back on the plane lol. I know you all fantasise about just dumping them on a plane and sending them back but it currently just isn't possible. if you went to oz or canada without being able to speak english and without any documents you might be there for a while yeah.

It's the airlines responsibility though.

It was "lost" in transit so yea full cost on them for return flight.

Nah sure oz would put ya up in 5 star accommodation and give ya full citizenship when your there for the few months trying to figure out who you are. Ffs😁

Your trying to justify fraudulent anonymity and potentially endangering populace with an unknown person entering a country. Why have security checks at all so.

Why just not have people exiting plane on the tarmac and just running in all directions from it. Be grand.

There might have our own boyos here walking around here with 50 odd convictions but at least there known to the guards. What do we know about this chapy.

He might be jesus christ too. We dont know do we.

The passport / ID thing is a red herring though. Destroying your documents probably only buys you a little extra time in the country in which you have arrived. Once the authorities have established your real identity (they have many ways of doing it), they can immediately deport you from the country if they decide you are not a genuine asylum seeker. There is no way people who can't even prove their identity or what country they have come from are being granted asylum.

How do we know who anyone is?

They’re not, and there’s no ‘we’, there’s just you who’s making that argument, as though you have a right to that information. You don’t, neither does Peadar -

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2022-02-01/596/#pq-answers-596

This is one of the things that has yet to be established - are immigrants seeking asylum arriving without ID, or are they arriving with what later turns out to be fraudulent or incomplete papers, and is that what’s meant by ‘undocumented’?

I haven’t been able to find any definitive meaning for ‘undocumented’, and I’ve not been able to find any evidence of passports or papers being destroyed mid-flight either. That appears to be more of an assumption than an established fact.

Had them in Spain I think last time I was there. Scan your passport and facial reading. Makes so much sense. I'd offer a stool sample if it helped.

Nothing to hide me 😁

Ahh, I get you now, as in when their permission to remain in the State is revoked, why aren’t they immediately being deported?

Surely it’s been established by now that the deportation process can take anywhere from months to years to be completed?

It’s happening, but it’s happening at a snails pace.