New Children's Hospital - A symbol of Ireland's scandalous and shady behavior

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I assume that was sarcasm about the eye of sauron

Should have gotten Australians to build it. The new 2018 Perth Childrens Hospital was a whole year late and shockingly over budget at €771m.

Ireland is a great place for cute hoors:

If it ends up costing €2.5B; at 160,000 sqm, that's €15,625 per sqm. The Perth Childrens Hospital at €771m for 125,000 sqm; costing €6,168 per sqm. 253% the cost of the PCH does not make it one of the least expensive built. What did they use as a cost basis, Apple HQ?

Rip-off Ireland doesn't seem like an adequate enough pejorative for this wholesale rort.

Not really, more that the advanced technology that they planned to use for smoke venting (suck down and push out) didn't work as expected and they had to retro fit it to use existing technology (up and out) which caused massive redesigns (as the original design had wide open spaces where now there needed to be smoke venting). There were lots and lots of other issues, but fairly benign for a project that size.

You would wonder how the tender for the smoke venting was done, were they trying to shoehorn a German companies new tech into the place unnecessarily, do they also do that with other projects, but the technology just happened to work well in other cases. Hong Kong airport (Chek Lap Kok) was also built on new tech (large scale land reclamation) that led to cost and time overruns, main difference was that it actually worked (though plane spotters no longer have the jets by skyscrapers that Kai-Tak brought with it).

With the Children's hospital, the co-location was the requirement that led to most other problems, had they reduced that requirement (e.g. co-locate to another smaller hospital) than the whole thing would have been much smoother, it felt like a case of the tail (where doctors wished to work) wagging the dog.

I've no doubt it will be impressive but also that everyone travelling there will curse it's location while stuck in gridlock.

Yep, the original dumb requirement poisoned all future decisions.

Well we were slightly in the slave labour game ourselves, of course granted no where to the level of our Middle Eastern friends.

Remember Gama?

BTW i left out all those high cost new casinos in Vegas, Macau, etc.

I was under the impression that A&E would still be A&E, i.e. very few would be going there for breaks etc.

AFAIK the MRIs that were bought for this new hospital have been installed already in existing hospitals, part of the contract is that they will be then moved to the new hospital.

You don't skip used MRIs, even faulty ones are worth a fortune.

Kitting out the equipment is already included in the cost.

I'm surprised there's no thread on the Navan Hospital downgrade (Navan A&E downgrade / Navan Emergency Department downgrade). There is money to fund not just Navan but also the re-opening of Roscommon A&E, it's called the Apple Tax.

I take the example of other EU Countries: Hungary for example would put Ireland to shame: they have more A&E Hospitals in every corner of Hungary than Ireland has. This despite the fact that Ireland is home to big multinationals where we could easily tax them for potential back taxes (retroactive taxation).

Those small hospitals all over the place are not only death traps but career dead ends for the doctors working in them.

Great vote winner for gombeen local TDs though.

There was lots of opposition when cancer treatment was centralised but it made a big difference to survival rates.

Apple tax - don't make me laugh - haven't SF spent it in their heads ten times already?

Spreading specialist medical expertise thinly for political purposes results in worse clinical outcomes. Or, rather, trying to - these little hospitals can't fill consultant posts because they're a career dead end