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Pizza ovens

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  • Registered Users Posts: 426 ✭✭niallo76




  • Registered Users Posts: 704 ✭✭✭bamayang




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    i did the guts of 20 pizza yesterday and it went with out a hitch! A little slow getting going but it’s very easy when you get the hand of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    I only started last week and feel like a pro already.

    I followed the below for making dough including their calculator for the ingredients ratio.


    below for the sauce


    and the below for the stretching and also use a steering wheel technique after the pounding where you hold the base like a steering wheelbut not touching the crust as you don’t want that to stretch and rotate it allowing the weight of the doin to the stretching.




  • Registered Users Posts: 704 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Can I check one thing. When you leave the dough balls for 5-7 hours, is that covered or uncovered? There’s no mentioning of covering in the video.

    I did that today and all went well until this point. The top half of the dough balls hardened and then cracked when I went to stretch them ☹️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    Always covered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    Getting better.



  • Registered Users Posts: 426 ✭✭niallo76


    Always covered...,you could also freeze them after you've made you doughballs,but yep,if you looking to make pizza,cover em up..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭wandererz


    I am considering selling my Koda 16 as i am moving home.

    Owned since October 2020. Used about 6 times. Has a weatherproof cover and I will include the PatioGas cylinder as well.

    I did use that cylinder with my previous Koda 12. There is still a good amount of gas left. At the very least you will not have to pay the deposit fee for the cylinder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 704 ✭✭✭bamayang




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    I used to use cling film. I just popped them on some baking paper and rested the cling film on top. Make sure to flour them to keep it from sticking too much though.

    I've started using a Trofast storage container from Ikea based on a recommendation from someone on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Not sure whether the forum charter allows for buying and selling on here, I really must read it someday. But it might help if you stated where you live and how much you are looking for it.

    The Gloomster!



  • Registered Users Posts: 426 ✭✭niallo76


    Either or,better still a container with a lid would be ideal.

    If freezing after making your doughballs,oil up your cling film a bit before wrapping,it will make it so much easier when you defrosting them...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭daveville30


    What temperature is best for cooking in a normal fan oven most people say as hot as it will go.seen other recipes saying 180 for 25 mins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭Thud


    it will depend on whether you have a baking stone or steel. If you do and it is preheated then the base will cook quickly so you'll want the top to do the same so as hot as possible. if not and cooking on a thin pizza pan then you'll need lower to allow time for base to cook



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭daveville30


    Yea it's just a cheapo pizza pan fairly thin steel.seen a few people using a tile they heat up quick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭Pipmae




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    ^ Money to burn 😂😂😂😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I’m a big fan of the PizzApp myself. I have my method down and pizzas coming out pretty good, but my schedule doesn’t always allow for the exact same start time in my dough. Some days I have time in the mornings, others the afternoons or evenings. I can use the PizzApp to tweak the proofing times as required and let it calculate the rest. The temp in the room will vary too and the app can cover that as well. Would highly recommend it to anyone making their own dough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    I got my Karu 16 recently and very happy using it with charcoal and wood combined. I got the gas burner as well but the regulator fitted didn't fit the patio gas cylinder that I bought specially. It seems others received the correct regulator fitted?

    I'm considering sending back the gas burner because I don't see myself getting use from it. The charcoal and wood combo work so well. Problem is I bought the new cylinder and took the cap off it to discover it wouldn't fit - I don't know what chance I have of getting a refund on that! €75 down the drain!

    A friend is using their gas burner with normal calor gas butane - this would suit me better cause I already have a few in use anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    There is a specific regulator for Ireland so Ooni must have sent you the wrong one. iirc the Irish regulator is rated to 37mbar, when you bought it there should have been a list of countries to choose from so you could select the correct one for where you live but they must have still sent out the wrong one so Id be sending it back for the correct one. Ooni customer service is top drawer so you wont have any problems exchanging it.

    Burning wood is fine during the summer when you're likely out in the garden in sunshine and brightness anyway, it gets old pretty quick when its dark, raining and cold outside during the winter so thats where having the convenience of gas really pays off imo. Seeing as you have spent 75 on the patio gas cylinder which cant be returned you might as well get the correct regulator that youve already paid for. Youll appreciate it when its raining heavily but you still want to cook pizza outside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    Yeah. I'll give them another call.

    We've had four firings so far over the past month with Charcoal and wood and it is really no bother. The only problem is getting the match to the fire lighter when it's blowing outside.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭budgemook


    I'm not mad about using gas on the Karu 12 to be honest. I used it for the second time this evening and the pizza was nice but you just don't get the same leoparding and the flavour that goes with it. It is more convenient so I'll stick with it for winter but as soon as the weather improves I'll be back to using wood.

    On a separate note, I wanted a proper Neapolitan margarita pizza tonight so went against common advice here and lashed on the sauce and the buffalo mozzarella (without drying it). I had to be pretty careful to avoid it sticking to the peel but it came off very well. If I had a wood fire going I'd say it would have been amazing!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet



    mmmmmm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭daveville30


    What recipe do you use for the dough.i normally use Vito's next level one but tried one with the ooni app with less hydration 65% it turned out well the dough was a lot easier to work with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    This recipe.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HkXojFU_LrE

    I usually make 2-3 bases as a time and use the below per pizza based on the above method. Gives a decent 12-14 inch pizza.

    180g tipo 00 per base

    115 ml water per base

    As little salt as I can get away with (tried zero and you can taste the difference)

    dried yeast 1/4 tea spoon per base



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    I made some pizzas last night and I was coming on here to ask about salt.

    I'm definitely using too much, I'm following the ooni classic pizza dough recipe and I always end up parched for the night afterwards. Based on what you're saying 893bet, I'm going to dial the salt down.

    Would you have an idea of what "as little as I can get away with" is in grams?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Ooni recipe says 10g for 500g of flour. Too much. Half a teaspoon is enough. Like 3g.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop



    Standard for neapolitan dough is 2.5 to 3% of the flour so if anything it should be around 15g for 500g of flour. 3g doesn't seem like nearly enough. I think ideally it's meant to be fine sea salt.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭daveville30


    I haven't tried the stadler one yet only the ooni and Vito's.ive noticed fresh sea salt is a lot better then normal table salt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    This is more or less what I've been using. It feels like too much - and I regularly end up drinking gallons of water afterwards. I'm going to make a batch with way less salt and see if there's a difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop


    No harm in playing around until you get what you like sure.

    Do you dissolve the salt in with the water at the start? I've been following Ken Forkish book and he advises to do this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    I do dissolve the salt.

    I think the amount of salt - plus salty toppings like pepperoni are just putting it over the top for me. I'll report back on my findings once I try a few different amounts of salt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭RonnieL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Anyone any good recommendations for a pizza pan for ooni? What to try and give making Detroit style a go, but some of the prices for pans are saucy enough when in euros compared to what can be got state side.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    If you already have a small sized stainless steel roasting pan that has 2 inch walls Id give that a go first before spending a lot of money on a pan specifically for the job. Ikea sell this type for 15 quid so you cant go far wrong as it has other uses. https://www.ikea.com/ie/en/p/koncis-roasting-tin-with-grill-rack-stainless-steel-10099053/ Stainless steel is rated up to 600c so you should be fine baking it at 450c in the Ooni. You could also check nisbetts.ie if the Ikea one isnt the right dimensons. If you are going to Nisbetts in the Ilac center then also check out TK Maxx inside the center as their kitchen section sometimes throws up some good deals on pans and other cookware. They often have wooden pizza peels in there for launching pizza.

    If you want a fancy ass pan for serving on the table then you probably are going to have to pay at least 60-70 quid upwards. Be wary of cast iron and ceramic that are plated or enameled and are not true versions as they are likely not rated for the high heat of an Ooni. The cast iron pans Lidl/Aldi sell for about 30 euro are sold as 'cast iron' but they are actually cast iron enameled meaning that temperatures above 260ish could actually crack them. Its the same with ceramic, some are plated ceramic rather than 100% ceramic and are designed for a home oven topping out at 250c max but they would likely crack inside an Ooni running at 450c.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Yeah a lot of them do. Too salty for me. Especially if youre adding salami etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    I use a large half teaspoon against 500 g flour. Don’t have a scales for measure but estimate it’s 4-5grams.

    That makes three 14 inch pizza for me.


    Use sea salt and I dissolve it in the water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Nice one didn’t even think to try the roasting tray! Have two of those so will give them a lash first.



  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭boccers



    I'm sure you know this but the temperature needed for a detroit style pizza can be achieved in a regular oven. At that temperature any baking or roasting pan is fine but if you are going higher towards the 450 C area I'd be wary of using any cheap pans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭hargo


    So you have worked long and hard over a few days making a high hydration dough to create the perfect cornicione, light airy and just a slight crackle cooked with a beautiful leoparding outer layer and you present it to your guests to see them leave it behind with the comment I never eat the crust.🤣 Just saying!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Maybe slightly off topic but was on the road yesterday and stopped off in a Centra for some food. Was really surprised to see a pizza oven in the shop. Seems to be a franchise called Caramico. Was very impressed with the pizza I have to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    that doesnt surprise me. Ive always thought that the country is full of Spars, Centras, etc and many of them have kitchens and food service counters that are lying there empty from 5-10pm. They're all in good locations for pick up so its a no brainer that the kitchen is used in the evenings and pizza is probably the perfect take away food for small catering spaces. I believe also that pizza is the most profitable take away food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Just had an email from Ooni announcing they are launching something that will be the future of pizza on 2nd March.

    What do you reckon? A new pot to make your sauce in for only €75? 😲



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tree


    Pfffft, you don't need a pot to make sauce. Maybe it's an electric Ooni...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭Pipmae


    It's rumoured to be an electric pizza oven for indoor use.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tree


    Hah, I thought I was taking the piss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    3 days to go to see what Ooni are up to. I've been thinking about an indoor pizza oven and realised I've already got one - the grill! Tested it out last week and it's very good.

    I used pre-baked pizza bases. Turn your grill onto the highest setting and wait a few minutes to get hot. Stick your pizza base onto your grill tray and put under grill - I put it high up but you're just looking to toast the base. When it's nice and brown remove and place it, toasted side down on a cooling rack to cool down a bit.

    Spread your pizza sauce, then toppings (any meats should be cooked prior). Back under the grill until base is toasted/mozzarella melted.

    One crispy-based pizza in under 5 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    For anyone who cant wait for the big reveal this is the patent application for what Ooni are about to release

    https://patents.google.com/patent/GB202208738D0/en?assignee=ooni&oq=ooni

    Its an electric pizza oven and will be called the Ooni Volt. They may also be releasing a second oven which will likely be an upgrade of a current model



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Well there it is, sold as both an outdoor and indoor pizza oven. But it comes in at 900 euro/$999, jesus H christ thats insane.




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