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"Ah its only a head cold"

  • 13-12-2022 3:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    One disturbing trend I have seen since the demise of COVID is the return of people spewing their non-COVID germs all over the fecking shop with reckless impunity. Things that should have been confined to the past like fellas showing up to work shpluttering and leaving a trail of misery behind them because they need the extra few quid to buy their child a new iPhone for Christmas, are starting to see a comeback. It was absolutely wonderful for over two years not picking up whatever bug was "going around", spending a few days in bed with a 10-litre bucket under your nose feeling absolutely miserable and hardly able to function.

    Few months ago I arranged to meet up with someone who only revealed they had a cold when we met. I nearly went mad, but somehow managed to stay calm. I would never be so selfish to meet up with someone knowing I had a good chance of infecting them. I don't understand why people do it? Do they not feel like absolute sh1te when they pick up these kinds of ailments and wouldn't they much rather be at home? Maybe I suffer a lot more with them than other people. Anyway, fcuk colds and the people who spread them knowingly

    /rant



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Humans coexist with viruses, and to do that they need exposure to them.

    All the scared little hypochondriacs are going to do is have their children die off in various painful ways because they didn't let them play outside and become exposed to germs.

    People who live in bubbles will come to rely on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭DBK1


    That’s it in a nut shell. Sorry @Ubbquittious but you may be over reacting here. I absolutely agree that good manners shouldn’t be left behind and no one should be coughing and spluttering on top of anyone else but there’s no reason for anyone with a bit of a runny nose to be staying at home locked up.

    People need to be exposed to normal everyday germs and build up their immune systems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,652 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Good luck getting the vast majority of employers agreeing to let their staff stay at home every time they have a cold.

    Get on with your life and let your immune system worry about seasonal viruses.





  • yeah being sick is shite but it’s a bit of a piss take in the times we’re in to suggest that people coming to work with colds or something else mild are doing it to buy their kids an iPhone.

    Mate if they’re anything like me, they’re just tryna pay the essential bills. Besides that everyone gets a bit too soft about colds. I don’t think it’s right to go into a nursing home if you have the flu, but going to a workplace of reasonably healthy folks with a wee cold? Sure what about it.

    Our chaps go to school if they have a small cold or mild dose as well if it’s more serious they stay at home. The pandemic was a bit of a wind up as well at some points, but sure we didn’t know what we were up against at the time so. Colds and the usual winter doses are standard craic and no big deal. They’re around all year and no matter what you’ll end up exposed at some stage.

    Isolating yourself over a flipping head cold is lunatic behaviour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Nope, I'd feel more guilty for cancelling plans last minute for a sniffle tbh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    Total overreaction op, now i will admit people coughing and sneezing without covering their mouth makes me want to kill them, regardless of if they have a cold or not. But apart from that it's business as usual.PS i have a head cold and am still going to the office and pub ect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,001 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Whatever about the eejits turning up with symptoms of a respiratory virus. what about the managers ? Any job I’ve had, had a fitness for duty policy or some similarly named caveat in their HR manual…. You are ill ? Don’t come to work… if you are a manager, you need to enforce it..l



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,489 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    unfortunately covid has warped a few minds... perspective about common mild illnesses has been lost. A run of the mill sneeze or a cough draws unapproving glances from some.

    Coughs and sneezes are evidence of an immune system actually working exactly as it should.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was a time a post like this would get you Threadbanned or directed towards the conspiracy theories forum..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,119 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    They're blaming the current rise in off-season Step A infections (and bad reactions to it) to the fact that kids haven't been exposed to it during the Covid pandemic, when everyone stayed at home. Same with RSV.

    And yet, the advice if you have any kind of bug is "stay at home to stop the spread". That's only going to perpetuate the problem.

    If you're sick enough to be in bed, sure - stay in bed. If you're just a bit sniffly, don't go coughing and spluttering on people, and wash your hands - but we can't be hiding away from everything. Being out and about can actually do wonders to help recover from illnesses like that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,154 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Should have kept masks mandatory for shops and public transport.

    Too many people seem to go out of their way to spread whatever delightful affliction they’ve “picked up” this week.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    "Spreading the germy love" is an important part of herd immunity against infections that are for the most part mild.

    Advocating for infection controls on the general public has been proven to weaken peoples immune systems, which is now putting childrens lives at risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,154 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Kids will get their “bits and pieces” in the crèche, play school and school. They don’t need adults who act like big children snotting on them.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    They don't need adults who act like big babies smothering them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    And you know what makes things even worse, covid can feel like a cold in some people. And antigen tests are unreliable. So these idiots could be spreading covid to you and you just don't know how you will cope with a covid infection and that goes for reinfection as well. I knew someone who had covid twice, first time was like a cold to them and the second time being vaccinated and they ended up in the hospital.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Go to Africa and tell them to spread Ebola. Everyone needs a dose of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,652 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,646 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Maybe make a homeopathic tincture.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    Another way to look at it is that the day of hiding from every sniffle, of frowning at the sneezer etc are over.

    Thankfully too



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Are you putting covid and the flu on the same level as a cold?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Adult immune systems need the same training as children - we exist in a world with a continuous arms-race against viruses and bacteria. They do not stop for us, they will continue to adapt and change.

    We need regular exposure to keep ourselves prepared and able to deal with any more dangerous variants that may arise. If you get infected with a headcold or seasonal bug, you gain immunity not just to that specific infection, but many others that share the same structure or lineage. Some of which can be much much nastier.

    If you aren't getting snotted on, you are putting yourself at higher risk than those who do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,652 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    You said yourself that Covid is only like a cold for some people. There is such as thing as mild flu too.

    People die every year from the flu, Covid isn't the big scary monster we once believed it to be.

    Now, do you think Covid, seasonal colds and flu are comparable to ebola? Your previous post suggested you do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Where did you get your epidemiology degree from?


    What about covid and how you don't get immunity from getting infected?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,652 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Solution for germophobes.

    The rest of us can carry on as normal, as humans have for millennia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    You do get immunity from previous infections, it just isnt permanent. At least, the antibodies arent. The other immune responses may still prove long lasting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    You can wear yours if you like. Nobody will mind. I still see the odd person driving around in the car by themselves with a mask on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    They absolutely should not! If people want to mask up their choice I’m getting on with my life though and not wearing a mask to validate their irrational fears.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,543 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    what even is a head cold?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not seeing the OP say anything about a sniffle or mere runny nose or very mild cold... yet people are pretending they did. I don't get that.

    Coming into work when you're so sick that you should be in bed, is infuriating. It makes other people as sick - and those who have asthma or bad sinuses may end up with a chest infection/sinus infection.

    It's counter productive too, because going into work when you should be in bed is just going to make you more sick, so eventually you'll have to stay home anyway, maybe for even longer than the 48 hours max that you originally needed. And if you have to go to the doctor, well that's money blown on consultation, prescription and antibiotic.

    However, obviously you can't be staying home from work if you have a sniffle but feel perfectly fine otherwise.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    When you stick your head in the fridge for too long wondering what to have for dinner and you have the sniffles when you close the door.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Vivian Green Troop


    Couldn't agree more with the OP, and also the suggestion that masks are compulsory on public transport. Obviously the Indiana Jones wannabees feel the need to spread their germs to prove their manliness. It has ever been thus I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Many people didn't even bother to lose excess weight during the covid 2-year hideaway despite that high cholesterol + inflammation combined were enough to make you "vulnerable" to an early death supposedly.

    You need exposure to colds to build up your immune system.

    If you're worried about your health then exercise, eat healthy foods, and boycott unhealthy foods.

    Germ-dodging as a way of life does not make you ipso facto healthy.

    On the contrary it has become a substitute for a healthy lifestyle for many, as masking and slumping in front of the TV are easier than preparing ingredients carefully and engaging in serious anaerobic exertion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Ah jaysus, we can’t expect people to look after their health. That would be victim blaming. Much better to have healthy people with a sniffle stay at home for a few days.😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭buried


    OP is dead right, why should I be exposed to sickness from my filthy fellow humans.? Its just not fair.

    And also, why I should I be exposed to death from filthy mother nature? Why should I have to deal with that too? Its just not fair.

    Why can't I live forever like what yer man in the coat that sang songs for Oasis said we could? Its just not fair.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Kumejima


    Did you not consider summarily executing the inconsiderate oaf on the spot? #toprotectyourselfandyourlovedones #stopthespread #byallmeansnecessary



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,119 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    engaging in serious anaerobic exertion.

    In fairness, if you’re doing any kind of activity in the absence of oxygen, the odd virus is the least of your worries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    What an absolutely fcuking ridiculous post. You and your little friends can wear all the masks you want and hide under your beds for the rest of your lives. You’ve had your fun now it’s time to put the big boy pants on and start living in the real world. I really can’t believe there are still people that think like this and also not surprised to see some of the posters that agree with you.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Garzorico


    People with colds/doses going to places where there are a lot of other people who they risk infecting is just plain ignorant. Simple as. The clowns should just suck it up and keep away until they are better. Selfish and childish is all they are.

    Hands up who would invite someone coughing and spluttering with a dose into their house to sit 12” from them and their family…..? Thought so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,454 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'm a strong believer in preventative measures when it came to Covid. I had it last March and it was zero craic.

    But I have to say, the lockdown measures have absolutely backfired i terms of normal immunity building.

    I've a couple of young nieces and nephews, aged around 5 and they are constantly sick now, laid up in bed with what should be routine seasonal bugs. Things just seem to be hitting them far worse than they ought.



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Vivian Green Troop


    I'll assume your first sentence was a forecast of what was to come rather than a comment on what went before.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    I think some people need reminding of when to stay at home.


    It clearly says to isolate with symptoms or a positive covid test.

    There's a link to symptoms which will redirect you to the HSE site which says symptoms of covid can feel like a cold or flu, so that means staying at home with colds.

    And if you have symptoms and a negative test to stay at home until 48 hours have passed symptom free which I think is a fair approach to things.


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/covid19_isolation_and_restricting.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Anyone still believes that hysteria or following covid guidelines are beyond redemption.how have humans survived for millennia without interacting with viruses and bacteria before now.

    it’s over.get on living life



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭machaseh


    I have a terrible cold/covid/flu whatever it is (no did not get a test). And I am still coming into work on thursday otherwise they are going to whine and nag about it because we HAVE to go to the office at least once a week even though it's not necessary for the job so.


    Unless it's getting worse then maybe no. I did cancel meeting up other people and did not go in on the other days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Look up some history. Not everyone survive from getting ill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,652 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,338 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Ah yes, responses are still very mature and non-accusatory to either side. Gotta love humanity.

    You'll never eliminate the heroes who come to work sick. The problem isn't even them coming to work sick, it's them then acting like normal. Japanese wear masks when they feel sick to stop them spreading it to others. And that's the main difference. Sick people over here don't care about anyone else, especially if it infringes on their "freedom". Couldn't get some people to mask up in the height of the pandemic, not a hope they'll do it for the benefit of others now.

    I will say, and only due to a funeral, i'm sick for the first time in nearly 2 years. Chest infection, won't go away. I know exactly who I got it from, the cnut. I didn't miss having this every 6 weeks prior to Covid. I wasn't a very social animal to begin with, but the removal of shared workspaces (WFH) is, imo, the main reason I haven't been getting sick since.

    Regardless of what anyone wants, people will do what they want anyway so no point getting upset anymore. Just makes me want to interact with the general populace less. Bring on PSVR2!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭machaseh


    One time I suggested to my manager that on that particular day I did not want to come into the office as I had come previous days (Irish manager, obviously). Now that was absolutley not acceptable and the manager started whining about it so I just went in anyway hence I am coming in this thursday even though I am sick and will still be sick on thursday. Maybe I'll cough in the general direction of manager to return the favour.


    Can't always blame the people who come in sick. Maybe it's management's fault.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Ah stop, there isn't anything management can do if you call in sick and follow HSE guidelines.





  • Well I went to a cafe earlier and the woman behind the counter first sneezed into my coffee then sneezed on her hand and handled a cookie she put on a plate for me ….



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