Leaving Dublin for good

s8n · 10-04-2021 6:56pm

John_Rambo wrote: »

Whilst Dublin may have not worked out for you, it works out for hundreds and thousands of people that live in stunning areas with amazing amenities in and around the city. I freelance in the creative sector too, I bought a house on my own and now am in my 40's living coastal with lots of cafes and restaurants.

Ones failure in a city doesn't make that city a kip.

couldnt agree more, getting tired of the postings on twitter blaming government and landlords for the housing situation when its clear its down to personal situations and folk having ideas above their station. Its a great city but like anywhere you need to work your way up the ladder in property and jobs

Pawwed Rig · 10-04-2021 7:26pm

s8n wrote: »

couldnt agree more, getting tired of the postings on twitter blaming government and landlords for the housing situation when its clear its down to personal situations and folk having ideas above their station. Its a great city but like anywhere you need to work your way up the ladder in property and jobs

There are 2 types of people. There are those who prioritise owning a property and are willing to do it incrementally over time by buying what they can afford and suffering commutes before trading up and those who value their time too much and rent at high prices while hoping to be able to afford to buy in their area of choice at some stage.
Many of the latter get stuck in rental long term. That is the difference between this generation and the pre crash generation. Personally I lived in some god awful places (Edenderry for example) but now because of that I can live where I actually want to.
I guess my point is that sacrifices have to be made to get where you want to go. Some people are not willing to make those sacrifices but expect the same outcome.

Lesalare · 10-04-2021 7:31pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Some people are not willing to make those sacrifices but expect the same outcome.

Fully agree. If you feel there is a means to an end you put up with sh*t to better the your end outcome. However people generally do that if they are content and happy with other factors surrounding their living situ - lifestyle etc etc...

If I was happy with other factors in my life here, I would put up with a lower standard of housing. However I'm still not sure how one is supposed to save a deposit for an apt or house here unless they move into a bedroom with 6 others or share with a stranger.

There are also a lot of people in Ireland who have never lived abroad for a lengthy period of time and have nothing to compare their situation to others.
To a lot of people Ireland is the be all and end all over everywhere as they haven't actually experienced life anywhere else.

riclad · 11-04-2021 12:28am

This reminds me of nyt articles, people write about leaving new York, it happens in every city, people over 30 or 40,
write i,m tired of paying high rent to live in a small flat,
Many people in the arts sector on low pay aresaying its not
worth it rents are too high
Its gets more expensive every year to buy a house
And by the way there are also crinimals and junkies in rural towns too
Many writers and artists can work anywhere as long as they
have broadband
So it's not necessary to live in a city
I think it's good that dublin is more diverse with people
living here from many country's

Thelonious Monk · 11-04-2021 1:56pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

There are 2 types of people. There are those who prioritise owning a property and are willing to do it incrementally over time by buying what they can afford and suffering commutes before trading up and those who value their time too much and rent at high prices while hoping to be able to afford to buy in their area of choice at some stage.
Many of the latter get stuck in rental long term. That is the difference between this generation and the pre crash generation. Personally I lived in some god awful places (Edenderry for example) but now because of that I can live where I actually want to.
I guess my point is that sacrifices have to be made to get where you want to go. Some people are not willing to make those sacrifices but expect the same outcome.

You don't have to suffer a commute, there are affordable places in Finglas, Coolock etc. Many people just wont live in areas that are traditionally working class. That is what I did, and my mortgage is very manageable.
I understand that I'll never be able to afford to live in Sandymount or Clontarf, and that's fine, so I try and make the most of what I have.
When I lived in London all I could afford was a sh*tty apartment in a rough part of South London, but I still think London is the best city in the world.

12-04-2021 7:49am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

You don't have to suffer a commute, there are affordable places in Finglas, Coolock etc. Many people just wont live in areas that are traditionally working class. That is what I did, and my mortgage is very manageable.
I understand that I'll never be able to afford to live in Sandymount or Clontarf, and that's fine, so I try and make the most of what I have.
When I lived in London all I could afford was a sh*tty apartment in a rough part of South London, but I still think London is the best city in the world.

Yup, I live in D7 a walking distance from town, house prices have jumped here a bit but still have a nice family home that would cost 2x if it was in one of the areas you mentioned like Clontarf.

blue_blue · 12-04-2021 8:25am

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/interiors/pandemic-relocation-the-couple-who-abandoned-dublin-for-home-in-co-mayo-1.4530096

Thelonious Monk · 12-04-2021 12:13pm

Ellison Melodic Tea wrote: »

Yup, I live in D7 a walking distance from town, house prices have jumped here a bit but still have a nice family home that would cost 2x if it was in one of the areas you mentioned like Clontarf.

I think a lot of people get disgruntled with Dublin because they'll never be able to afford to live in the really nice areas, and it turns out they're better off living wherever they are from in Ireland or moving out to the sticks and commuting.
The experience of living somewhere they don't want to live blemishes their view of the city. Fair enough.
I don't think there are many booming cities in the world though where you can move and live in the sought after areas unless you're on serious money.

s8n · 12-04-2021 2:10pm

blue_blue wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/interiors/pandemic-relocation-the-couple-who-abandoned-dublin-for-home-in-co-mayo-1.4530096

painful smugness in that article !!

Thelonious Monk · 12-04-2021 2:28pm

She's interested in sustainability so she moves to a one off mansion, rightio.
Fair play to them but I would hate to have a massive house miles away from everything.

dmakc · 12-04-2021 4:01pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

She's interested in sustainability so she moves to a one off mansion, rightio

Very odd take from the article.

"Mansion"? How many people do you know commencing a Rathmines mortgage after redundancy? She moved to her husband's home place with an open mind to get through covid. Then she happened to like the area in a house previously unoccupied for ten years (and a four-minute walk from the town).

Not everyone wants neighbours the other side of their wall, well done to them and everyone in the thread thinking of doing same.

Thelonious Monk · 12-04-2021 4:38pm

dmakc wrote: »

Not everyone wants neighbours the other side of their wall, well done to them and everyone in the thread thinking of doing same.

It doesn't matter, it's bad practice to live like this when it comes to sustainability, the woman in the article should know this, and yes a 6 bedroom house is a mansion to me.

dmakc · 12-04-2021 4:50pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

it's bad practice to live like this when it comes to sustainability, the woman in the article should know this

I see. So in the name of sustainability, shall we just pull the plug on this Mayo community now then? Or did you miss the part where it's a four-minute walk from the town?

Live and let live

optogirl · 12-04-2021 4:55pm

Being able to go to and indeed walk to any gig in town I want is worth too much to me to move....oh yeah and my family I suppose.

Thelonious Monk · 12-04-2021 4:58pm

dmakc wrote: »

I see. So in the name of sustainability, shall we just pull the plug on this Mayo community now then? Or did you miss the part where it's a four-minute walk from the town?

Live and let live

Yes pull the plug, build soviet style apartments with shared green space around, put her in that. Most efficient.

dmakc · 12-04-2021 5:06pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes pull the plug, build soviet style apartments with shared green space around, put her in that. Most efficient.

Thought you might. Sounds like a dream

mgn · 12-04-2021 6:09pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

She's interested in sustainability so she moves to a one off mansion, rightio.
Fair play to them but I would hate to have a massive house miles away from everything.

Your only jealous of her mansion, just because you live in a pokey little house or flat you think everyone else should.

You wont see to many of your hero's in the Green Party living in a pokey little flat, that's only for the fools that vote for them.

Thelonious Monk · 12-04-2021 6:15pm

Jealous of a mansion, stop. We don't all think bigger is better.

Pawwed Rig · 12-04-2021 6:17pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

We don't all think bigger is better.

We're still talking about houses right?

NSAman · 12-04-2021 6:18pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Jealous of a mansion, stop. We don't all think bigger is better.

So your wants and needs don't correspond to someone else's needs.

If you want to live in a small place that is fine.

Just don't criticise her choice to live in a "mansion".

You really sound like a disgruntled individual.

Thelonious Monk · 12-04-2021 6:23pm

I just thought it was a bit rich for someone to say they are interested in sustainability yet they move to a huge house in rural Ireland where everyone is car dependent.

dmakc · 12-04-2021 6:35pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I just thought it was a bit rich for someone to say they are interested in sustainability yet they move to a huge house in rural Ireland where everyone is car dependent.

Third time noting they're a four-minute walk from town. I rent city centre in Dublin and have to walk 10 mins to my nearest Spar

Ronaldinho · 12-04-2021 6:46pm

s8n wrote: »

painful smugness in that article !!

Why does the author call them by their surnames throughout?

Very odd.

Thinkingaboutit · 12-04-2021 7:36pm

JustAThought wrote: »

Some parts of Dublin are absolute holes, and the city centre has become an unpoliced zombie no go zone - especially after dark out of the very centre. That being said some parts are fabulous places to grow up and live in - unfortunately you’d have needed to have bought long ago or now have two good salaries to buy there or have inherited or grown up there. Unless you have a handy 6 or 700k to spare.

That being said people renting can chose their spot, rent what they couldn’t afford to buy, have a great lifestyle with job that may not be available elsewhere and move if the area goes down/ better house elsewhere appears or job location changes - they have options.

Not everybody relishes a life of landlocked county, grass & small towns, the smell of sileage in the morning or the cliquey living of the country or GAA lifestyle. I know a few Dubs who moved to their OH’s and were never accepted or welcomed by their ‘communities’ and are living harrowing, lonely lives in big beautiful houses in the arsehole of nowhere that they can’t afford to hear, with nothing closeby and no amenities and are going slowly mad.

I have a little holiday home in an area where I've some still maintained family connections, so maybe it won't be so bad, but amenities can a good deal simpler.

ToxicPaddy · 15-04-2021 8:35am

I moved to Dublin many years ago from a smaller town down the country and initially hated it as my salary was low, working shift hours and I couldnt really enjoy it.

But as my career progressed my salary rose to a level where I really could start enjoying the city and properly discovering it and I loved it, even moved right into the city centre to make the most of it.

However, I met my better half, got married and my priorities changed, so we have bought a house, outside of Dublin in a small town, on the coast and about a 30-40 min drive from the city center (in normal traffic not rush hour) and now we have the best of both worlds.

Small town life with a major city right on our doorstep. We know all our neighbours, have a kid in their same age range as most of our neighbours and chat about normal family life things but if we want a night out, (pre covid) we simply went into town and checked into a nice hotel as a treat (not something we did often) and it felt like a different world without being a million miles away.

We both love Dublin, yes certain parts are not great but they are not areas we spent any time in and if you're from mainland Europe, which my wife is, there are cities that are much much worse than Dublin with regards crime, drugs, filth and the other not so nice aspects. So to some people. Dublin is a kip, belive its far from one when you look at other places.

To be honest I love Dublin, we have a decent quality of life here, decent careers and everything we need on our doorstep. If we moved back down the country in the morning, yes we could afford a bigger house on more land but I'd be bored silly and regret every minute of it.

I know Dublin isn't for everyone and city life isn't for everyone but just because you don't like it, calling a place a kip just doesn't make sense to me. Try living in some of the less nicer areas in bigger cities around Europe or globally and you'll actually see how nice Dublin really is.

DonnaDarko09 · 15-04-2021 8:40am

The problem is not many people can afford these houses on the commuter belt anymore without incurring large debt.
This ultimately impacts any quality of life.

Thelonious Monk · 15-04-2021 11:03pm

You better leave quick!

https://www.thejournal.ie/house-prices-soar-outside-dublin-5411019-Apr2021

Cackles · 27-11-2022 6:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116624098#Comment_116624098

I know this is an old thread but yeah, it's impossible now I've decided at 44 to move back west with my 20 year old daughter, I've been here since 1996 and have still never been able buy a home, I've spend in excess of 360,000 on rent over the past 20 year but this year is really taking its toll after a long battle with stress induced anxiety and depression I've decided that leaving Dublin will go a long way towards reducing the constant financially stress, although I love my job and make ok money but it's never enough up here , I will find it really hard to leave the so called good pensionable job, which is no good if I cannot meet basic security needs on it or end up getting a stroke from the stress of trying to manage , I will be gutted, and heartbroken to leave the job, but it's the right thing to do, another 20 or 30 years ahead paying of another mortgage for someone else if I stay.

The Dublin we knew is dead and gone, Tis with O leary in the grave .......

PommieBast · 27-11-2022 6:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119928167#Comment_119928167

That's not far off my own story. Covid-19 lockdown pretty much trashed my life, and the idea of dealing with the dysfunctional Dublin accomodation market while also trying to piece my life back together was simpy too much.

Cackles · 15-12-2022 12:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119928279#Comment_119928279

how are ye getting on did ye make the move

PommieBast · 15-12-2022 5:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119998161#Comment_119998161

I moved summer 2021. My current job is really just a stop-gap and I'm still sorting out my personal life, but at least with accomodation my living situation is stable.

15-12-2022 5:59pm

I absolutely hate Dublin City centre north of the Liffey, I avoid having to even pass through it, and I’m Dublin bred and born. As for European cities, most of the centres are the best parts, eg Paris, Madrid. Dublin’s best parts are south city centre/Georgian quarter, much of Southside that’s not too far west, coastal north Dublin, and parts around Castleknock. Coastal Dublin is lovely. I’m lucky to be born in Dublin and inherited family home, otherwise I’d likely be really struggling to both make ends meet and have some kind of a life.

Leaving Dublin for good

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