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Dreamer of the year (Arcade Edition)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,323 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    It'll be interesting to see if it's just nostalgia driven or if these things will actually hold value alright.

    On one side of the coin you've things like baseball card collecting, which got to insane levels and then the arse dropped out of it completely in the 90s.

    But on on the other side, comic collecting has really taken off. Pre comics code horror comics go for an absolute fortune - and you're talking about comics from the 40's and 50's, so a lot of folks interested in and buying them wouldn't have been born when they were printed.

    This is mostly (I'd imagine) driven by the superhero craze in the last decade and how much Marvel and the likes have joined the mainstream.

    Similarly, videogames going so mainstream is the cause of retrogaming also becoming so popular. Is there any going back I suppose is the question, or as videogames are now so popular there will always be an interest in where it all began?

    Everything going digital in this and future gaming generations might also be part of the thing that keeps an interest going in old hardware from purely a hobby level. In a similar way people are interested in classic cars that came long before they had any connection to them etc.

    Hard to know. All I do know is I'm happy with what I have any cant afford to be paying the going rate on a lot of stuff anymore! :eek:



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    They were good when they opened. Could end up with some very rare things for silly low money but I think they cottoned on when I think Johnny Ultimate got a boxed copy of MUSHA Aleste for a bargain and I ran out of there with Alien Soldier for a tenner. They kind of realised some of the stuff was more valuable then.

    Chris Kohler had an interesting twitter post about this from selling games at conventions this year. The Atari 2600 market used to be ridiculous but clamed down and now nobody cares about it. He said the same thing is happening with the NES market. The rare sought after stuff still sells but he can't shift the common or low value items. Megadrive and PC Engine are the same. SNES is still going strong but PS1 and PS2/Gamecube are getting into the insane phase with DS and Wii really taking off as well.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Original devices to play them on is going to be interesting, especially concerning the ones with lots of moving parts.

    I can power up the Megadrive and it still works as it did on the day it was released, but those with optical drives just wear out, and how collectable is a PS going to be if it has an Aliexpress replacement drive installed?

    I guess the more recent devices have moved so far into digital delivery that the opportunities to collect physical titles is not only reduced but marketed as R@RE!!! from the very start.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Does Metal Jesus and other bigger YouTubers really influence pricing? I remember watching a video where someone was tracking prices on games he had mentioned and concluded it didn't really make a difference.

    Then again content creators like to copy each other and their top 10 lists or hidden gems lists are all the bloody same, it's like they don't want to have their own opinions.

    There's definitely been some generic PS2/360 games I've seen that have absolutely no business being expensive, must have been on someone's list. Fortunately I've seen a few €20ish games that have escaped the minds of popular YouTubers. The idea of a sub-€20 post Covid game is still alien to me.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Did for me at least once. Was looking for a copy of Trip World for months from Germany. Took ages to get one where the shipper didn't mess up asking if they would change to international shipping. Finally got a bare cart for 80 quid but gave it away to a friend of mine as a present. Went looking for another copy but by that time Jeremy Parish had highlighted the game in some of his write ups and mentioned how it had a limited German release and the prices were japanese copy prices (about 400+ euro a bare cart).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,966 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Here you can spend €150 on a notoriously low quality Pokemon romhack/bootleg without a hint of warning of it being shoddy bootleg goods.

    Edit : Lowered to 110 while still not mentioning it’s a fake - an absolute steal.

    Post edited by Mr.Saturn on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    The offers here have to be a piss take, you’d have trouble getting rid of that in the recycling centre



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,323 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Haha, what the absolute feck. The marquee is almost as big as the monitor 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,966 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Who is going to ask if the weights are included?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The wall vent cover being stored underneath is a nice touch.

    Realistically, for a grand how much choice would you have for a standard cab?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,323 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I think you might still be able to get one of the more common candy cabs in from Ronnie for about a grand? Astro and the likes?

    Unfortunately it wouldn't include weights or an air vent for your wall though.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,392 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Theres no way thats a real offer it cant be haha, i had a , in my opinion anyways, decent look SF2 themed cab (Original woody) up for sale for a year just waiting on an offer of 5-600 and nothing. now granted it only had a lcd and pandoras box in it and i may have been dreaming myself, but it was way better than that thing, it looks like homer simpsons spice rack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin



    There’s often real generic JAMMA cabs for €500 or less, I’ve sold some myself on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    Haha it is like the spice rack, or the BBQ pit



  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭Mucashinto


    Does the PAL issue cause problems for you collectors? I'm always surprised when I see big money being sought for PAL games on adverts and the likes. I've no business being snobby as I didn't know any difference when I was a kid and was perfectly happy, and own no physical games now, but do ye lads not end up with a region modded system and ignore all PAL games?

    Awful shame really, the country's (continent's!) whole market of games rendered a bit irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    Don’t most pal games run full speed on a region modded console?

    I know on the snes/megadrive there are some games which don’t due to them being coded differently to compensate for the difference.



  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭Mucashinto


    Ah right, showing my ignorance here. I thought the mod was to be able to play NTSC games for some reason, didn't cop that would mean pushing the PAL games out at 60.

    So you probably want a Tv that can display NTSC & PAL, a region mod that can play games at 50hz or 60hz and then you're set? (Probably better than just having an NTSC system as some of the games will be PAL optimised anyway, so more lines/better colour depth?).

    Well that changes everything, hooray for PAL!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I prefer to play at 60Hz where possible, but it brings its own issues....be it buying import US games which are now hit hard not only with rising prices, but with import duty/high post costs on top (and An Post's ineptitude with managing goods inbound)...or buying cheaper Japanese games, where you may have to sacrifice some of the language elements of the game (many don't need Japanese though which is great.) PAL gaming is perfectly fine, and each to their own, but if you've been spoiled by gaming at 60Hz full speed, you may notice PAL games look and sound a little sluggish in comparison.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    There's two aspect to modding a SNES. The first it to flip between 50Hz and 60Hz, the 2nd is to disable the lockout to play NTSC-U and NTSC-J games.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    There's an issue I've come across with a lot of PAL games. There's a good few that run the correct speed on a modded 60Hz machine but the music is sped up to sound better on a 50 Hz machine. So you have the worst of both worlds, crappy slow gamplay but correct music or correct gameplay but music that sounds all wrong.

    Most annoyingly it has been on a few games I got that were far cheaper in PAL format. Super Aleste was one and Little Samson on the NES was another.

    Best advice is just not bother with PAL games unless they are very cheap and you can take a chance or are PAL english exclusives. It's not worth the annoyance.

    As for the PS1, don't even bother with PAL games unless they are PAL english exclusives.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,001 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    There's no real PAL optimised games really. There's one of two. Rare did a bit as they are a UK company and Sega did a few late life PAL optimisations. Super Mario Bros is a strange exception that is well optimised.

    Most PAL optimisation is just the sped up music with slow gameplay. As for Extra lines and colour depth, only 16-bit game that I can think of that has extra vertical resolution might be DKC. Pretty much every PAL game has squashed aspect ratio and letterboxing bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Definitely no extra colour depth as that would require new art.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,392 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    150 for one of the most sold games of all time. mario 3.


    this guy has some gems. 75 quid for Tetris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,966 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    That comment thread is a bit of a trip as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    Cross his palm with silver and you’ll save a shite laptop from landfill



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭dav09


    https://www.donedeal.ie/games-for-sale/scud-racer-twin-arcade/35144615

    Is this the Scud Race that was listed recently in a two part deal with a Sega Rally for around 900 all together? Also screen flashing different colors means PCB issue not monitor issue if it uses the screens I think it does. But yeah I'm sure someone will give 2k.

    Also The King of Route 66 in his other ad that no one wanted for 750 is now worth 3k a few weeks later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭dav09


    https://www.adverts.ie/nintendo/mario-kart-arcade-gp/31994094

    This is a good one, we've heard of Adverts tax but this is some of the best I've seen.

    Pretty sure the cards are still being made, 'Extremely Rare 60 euro per card', plus I don't think the machines here even had the reader/writer, I've never seen one.

    vs 1 dollar 80 per card here and on Coin-Op Express. Was tempted to make an offer for the craic I can imagine getting a response of 'I know what I got'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Late entry for the actual dreamer of the year award winner?

    Over 5 grand for a digital pinball machine, not even full sized.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Smyth's were selling them off for €500, and this chancer has bodged in another €100 of parts, making one pug ugly and impractical... thing.

    Better to have modded it with a bigger screen, make it more effective at replicating pinball



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    He has that volume mod too 🤣


    Absolute pathetic attempt to cash in on pinball. But anyone who'd buy that is more than likely into pinball and will know its an utter rip off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭CathalDublin



    €100 for SMB, hang on there while I get my chequebook

    https://www.adverts.ie/33315898
    


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    So, someone in Ashbourne is selling an "original Midway arcade cabinet"

    It is War Gods, not the most inspiring game or cabinet for that matter.

    But, whoever did it, it is selling with the CRT gone and a maggotty LCD monitor just bunged in, with a bit of painted ply for a bezel.

    And it's €550

    http://www.adverts.ie/32557039



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