Staff Shortages in Ireland.

Considering Ireland punches above its weight internationally in many industries due to our own immigration and working abroad. It's double standards to suggest we won't facilitate others to do the same.

Colleges are businesses. They run courses to make money. They are not there simply to churn out worker for the domestic economy.

You're trying to equate an apprentice with a fraction of the study and education qualifications working in an industry with poor reputation of non adherence to regulations with a chemistry graduate 4 years of full time study working in highly regulated regime.

It's an inane comparison.

If you can't handle the oversight of a trade and the safety requirements you have no concept of what happens in other industries.

Taxi shortage would be solved overnight by allowing Uber and Lyft to operate here the way they do in many countries around the world. Spot on, good post.

You tell me why is it that an apprentice can only learn how to change a piece of a motor, or fit a piece of a stairs, by being in a local garage or a customers house, and not in a training facility/classroom.

What is the strange reason that one can learn Greek, or chemistry in a classroom. But not how to repair a dented door panel.

Do you have a theory as to why that might be?

Heres mine; a low paid, low knowledge, young, dependant, eejit is needed for all the shyt jobs, that the 'time served' business owner doesnt like to do.

Which funnily enough lines up perfectly with what one commenter above said of his time as an apprentice.

Maybe thats why we dont have people entering the trades, because nobody wants to be treated like a clueless and undeserving piece of sht on and off, until theyve 'served their time'.

Train them in the clasroom first. Then they can 'serve time' as a skilled worker. With exams behind them. Cut out the time they waste being used as someones skivvy, brushing floors or getting breakfast rolls.

You may learn to fit a door or repair a motor in a classroom. And people do - I've been in the local ETC training facility with its row of doors.

But you don't learn about customer service, or teamwork or dealing with things that go wrong. You don't develop stamina, or test if you can handle the smelly bits of working with sewerage or the physical challenges of wiring a building.

People who leave college with degrees have the theoretical basis. They still need substantial training in how things are done in the real world - an in particular that achievin 50% (ie just passing) isn't worth a sh*t.

The apprenticeship system does have classroom and practical sections. Many college courses also have work experience and practical sections.

If you have crap employer that's a different issue. But if you don't like the practical side and manual aspect of a trade. You've picked the wrong career.

We've all been the dogsbody or gofor on a site or in an office starting out.

Yeah, and it has the pattern of classroom and practical sessions patterned in such a way that it makes for a skivvy and king relationship. Hence you 'serve time' as a sort of indentured slave.

So we are left we a few questions.

- How does it feel to be the douchebag gofor, the dogsbody.

- Who needs who more. The whinging public, or the young lad considering a trade against many other options.

- Are we going to fix our lack of trades by offering the young the opportunity to be low paid and second class until we deem them to have served their sentence, and been used as cheap labor.

- How old is this system, and has it moved with the times.

That's not the point I was replying to. Of course doctors will get paid more than childminders etc. I never stated anything different.

The post I was replying to was suggesting prioritising doctors, nurses, teachers etc. for accommodation which I think is a suggestion that I can't see working.

You can of course prioritise the doctors and nurses etc. by charging really high rents that childminders and cleaners can't pay but doctors would be able to pay but that's pretty much the system we have now and that's not working.

Yeah. And hows that system working out for us.

Customer service my hole. Have you spoken to a tradesman lately. You should be so lucky that theyd lower themselves to speak to a customer. Let alone turn up for the job.

Old world thinking. We still see these professions as second rate to professions which dont involve manual aspects. We still think of fresh apprentices as prey.

And now we moan about a lack. And now those who we treated as gofors and douchebags rightly tell us theyll be at our place a month from now, maybe, before just blowing us off.

There's good and bad people in every career and industry.

It isn't working. People in trades/professions are leaving the country here because they can't afford to get housing, especially in areas like Dublin. This is leading to staff shortages here.

If you can't get staff in professions like doctors, people die. It's not really an option to wait for the industry to self correct - eventually.

What can the government do to lower rents/house prices?

Right put lorry drivers in there, yes I’d absolutely agree they are key workers as are shop staff, etc and other workers you mentioned. In England they have housing for key workers . We are in an absolute mess now and have chancers throwing away their documents on arrival at Dublin airport and they expect to be housed too . Any young person who can’t get sorted here accommodation wise is going to leave and who could blame them , yet these are the very people we need to keep our country functioning. Rinse and repeat!