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2022 NFL regular season thread - discussion (no picks)

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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cataleya Dry Terminology


    Obviously not.

    Ruling on the field stood. Good call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    All you have to do is look along the really white part of the line and you see his foot blocking part of the line.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,446 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    After looking again I'm not sure he's out. I thought it was clear but it looks like the Raiders have this daft silver outline between the black (inbounds) and white (out of bounds). I believe the silver is considered inbounds based on where the pylons are? His foot looks to be on the silver but unsure it's on the white.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm interested to hear your reply to that picture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,576 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    @oats But if he touched that part of the line North of the pylon (as per the orientation of your picture) it would be considered out of bounds? So it must also be out of bounds in the end zone shirley?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Yes, that's how you know. No colour but green is in bounds on the field so that line continues all the way through the end zone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,446 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Why are they allowed to have 2 separate shades of white around the edges of the endzone. That's confusing me.

    I've changed my mind and think he's out now after looking at some endzone pictures from other stadiums.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I believe you have to get permission from the commissioner to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I froze the TV on the original shot and while it's not very clear you can piece it together with the overhead shot and know he was out. I'm sure they have clearer pictures than I can get.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,446 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The fact we still can't definitively say whether he was in or out the next day tells me the refs probably made the right call sticking with the decision on the field. It's too close.

    The black & white cleats don't help either 😄




  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cataleya Dry Terminology


    It'd be even funnier to me, and I'd love if he was actually out because it'd boil the Patriots piss even more, but you've not presented sufficient evidence.

    Oat23's photo above...quite clearly in. Plenty of black paint between the toe and the sideline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Oat23's pic shows there is no black between his foot and the line. I do think that pic isn't as helpful as it could be. The angle is crooked and you can't see all of the line.

    There's something wrong with your eyesight if you can see black between his shoe and the white.

    You do know you can zoom in on that pic. To me it looks like his foot is definitely touching the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So you obviously hate the Patriots and that's more important to you than a fair game?



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cataleya Dry Terminology


    Your first evidence was a still image from the moon from an atrocious angle.

    Now we have a close up and you're whingeing about the angle being crooked haha. Behave.

    It's not a clear and obvious error - ruling on the field stands.

    And a fan of the Spygate Deflatriots talking about a fair game haha. Beautiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,809 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    You can literally see the white paint flicked into the air!

    I find it hard to get too wound up about the decision. We were rubbish - historically the Patriots always did the basics well and didn't kill themselves. This team is different - the offense has been anaemic all year. Special teams has long been a strength, but even that is sloppy has hell. We look badly coached on offense. That first half debacle in the red zone was embarrassing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Obviously you know nothing about spygate or deflategate. If you did you'd know how ridiculous both were, every team were using cameras just like the Patriots and that's been admitted by multiple coaches.

    And deflategate, science proved the balls would deflate that much in one half of football in that weather. They actually did it live and it happened. On top of that the balls were pumped at halftime and the Patriots scored 28 points in the second half and Brady threw for 89 yards in the first half with the deflated balls while throwing for 136 yards in the second half with the re-inflated balls. You do know that Goodell was with the Jets before moving to the league office?

    Just digest that information and then cop on to yourself. Generally people like you just hate great teams and great players which in my opinion is really sad.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    I think he was likely out but that isn't the level of certainty that is needed to overturn it.

    It is a pain in the rules, where they tend to nearly err towards giving things so they can be reviewed - then they're stuck with that decision because there isn't enough to overturn it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well I think when you piece them all together there is sufficient evidence to overturn the call.

    That of course doesn't excuse the stupidity at the end of the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Easy win for the Packers tonight. Rams look awful, worse than even what they've been doing this year with Mayfield under center.

    Lions must be loving this, I don't think anybody would have expected the Rams' draft pick in '23 to be a top five pick which looks very likely now. Right now it's no.3 and they have to face the Broncos, Chargers and Seahawks to finish the season.

    They could end up with Will Anderson to play on the opposite side to Hutchinson. That would be scary.

    They moved up last year with the Rams pick to take Jameson Williams who should be a really good one. Now by the looks of things they'll get a premium defender with that pick this year.

    Goff has looked really good this season too and he's still only 28.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I genuinely think Jalen Carter would be a 'better' pick for the Lions. They've a good tandem in Hutchinson, Okwara and Houston coming off the edge whereas everything about Carter just screams Aaron Donald and exactly the type of player they're looking for.

    Not taking anything away from Anderson. He's a top player but I think the Lions would have a bigger need on the interior.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Probably their last chance to pick so high for the foreseeable future and move on from Goff to a highly rated rookie.

    Goff this season has been mostly fine or slightly better but he is never going to be elite or even the level below. Their OC has been fantastic but he might be gone this offseason so you can't presume Goff's play will keep up.

    If they feel like one of the QBs in the draft at their pick could be elite they should pull the trigger and get them on a rookie deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I was talking a couple of weeks back to a friend whose a Texans fan and he was on about a QB in this draft and I said no. You've got Mills there and he doesn't have a decent receiver, he needs a no. 1 to have any chance to open things up. He also needs a TE.

    If you get him those pieces then you'll know what you've got. In the meantime I'd sell the draft picks, that's their own and the Browns, for next year because Caleb Williams is going to be an elite NFL QB and I'd love to have a bunch of first rounders in '24 to go get him.

    Last week Sean Payton said exactly the same thing as I'd said a few weeks before as regards being in position to get Williams.

    The no.1 pick in the draft will net you a first rounder this year and next, a second rounder this year and a bunch of other picks. If the Browns pick ends up top ten you'll get next year's first and maybe this year's if it's down the board a bit and a couple of other picks as well. It would put you in fantastic shape in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes.

    I'd be willing to give up on premium talent this year to get Williams in '24.

    The Lions are the other team who'd have a chance to do something like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    I think the Lions are far too good to get a sniff at Caleb without trading 3 first round picks. It could happen but I suspect a better offer from a team that can offer better first round picks will come in or most likely the team with the 1.1 takes him. Of course this is all dependent on next year and how Caleb progresses.


    A lot of change in the AFC South this week. Matt Ryan reportedly getting benched for Nick Foles and Tannehill is reportedly out for the season. Tough to see Malik doing much in his place but if that defense can hold back a poor Texans offense then Derrick Henry might do the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mayfield might work out yet, McVay might be the answer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    This will work out bad for me this week. Bet on the broncos defense across a few fantasy leagues. Broncos defense vs Baker with no real weapons and a struggling o line seemed a slam dunk. Definitely one I want to watch properly when family time is done!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Nathaniel Hackett fired according to reports.


    Obviously Russ has been a big issue for them as well but they can't get out of that deal yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Some start to the Monday night game. Just over 10 minutes gone it's 0-0 and Foles with two ints and Herbert with one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Panthers lead the Bucs, if they beat them they take the lead in the NFC South.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,964 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Please God let them bench fields, he's had these dodgy hamstrings for weeks and he is getting sacked constantly. What do we stand to gain from seeing more of him at this stage? As a fan, looking at the possibility of first pick, a very strong chance of second, and the probably of a fifth or sixth pick if we happen to rob a victory, which would be "gained" at the risk of injuring the QB of the future, I have to wonder what the hell we're even doing here, the coaches jobs are not on the line here. Playing fields behind that o line should constitute malpractice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,944 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Thibadeaux is a scumbag anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,532 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The eagles having started undefeated and then having a slump had to win one game from three to clinch the NFC east and the 1 seed and now they need to beat the giants in week 18. Jesus. Gardner Minshew is awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just shows how important Jalen Hurts is to them. Kinda nearly makes his case for MVP stronger while not playing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I don't think he got flagged for that. If there was ever unsportsmanlike conduct that was it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,944 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    The fact that no colts linesman took an ejection to drop a knee on him tells me where that groups mind is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,964 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yeah it's amazing the o line cold stand around looking at that and do nothing. No pride at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Agree that the Colts players should have got involved but so should the officials.

    This night game is real tough football. It's 13-3 to the Ravens but should be 9-3. Ravens got a ridiculous penalty called against the Steelers for unnecessary roughness real late in the second quarter, it was 4th down coming up. That penalty resulted in a touchdown instead of a field goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,576 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Jags Titans moved into the late Saturday (1.15am Sunday our time) slot which is nice.

    Raiders Chiefs at 9.30pm Saturday night.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cataleya Dry Terminology


    The Ravens can go f*ck themselves until John f*cking Harbaugh is sacked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Bills Bengals postponed to a later date after Bills' safety Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field. Players were crying and everything, it doesn't look good. I hope he recovers from whatever happened.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Cardiac arrest the reason this happened. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,594 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Just seeing the news now, have been off grid with a phone issue. Absolutely shocking. This sort of thing happening in professional sport always freaks me out, can't imagine how his family, team-mates and everyone else associated with him are feeling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Absolutely. Obviously some underlying issue there that the hit and playing just managed to kick off. There is a lot we have done in medicine but there is also a lot we don't know about how we are built and what can go wrong when even if most others would be fine.


    It was a nothing hit and definitely not his fault but you have to imagine Tee Higgins must feel rotten as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The Titans collapse is complete. Led all the way tonight but still came away with the loss. From 7-3 to 7-10 to end the season. We gotta look at Tanehill being missing, I've never really rated him but he was the missing piece on that offense which only scored 20 points once when he wasn't there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    I don't massively rate him either but I would consider him starter level, just not the starter you want for your team. 0-7 to finish surprised me, you would expect 1 in there from that squad especially as Tannehill was in for some of those games.


    I think with Vrabel and that team they just needed decent level QB play to make them at least competitive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,594 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    That Hines KO return TD is one of the most goose-bump inducing moments I have ever seen.

    3 months and 3 days since the Bills last had one too. Mental.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Packers out. I wonder has Aaron Rodgers taken his last snap in Green Bay. I have a strong feeling that he has.

    Rumours of Tom Brady moving on from Tampa, wouldn't be at all surprised to see Rodgers replace him there. He'd love having a receiving corp with Evans and Godwin and whoever else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It was weird and good but it really hurt as a Patriots fan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Tampa are set up to have serious cap issues next year so unless Rodgers decides to take a tiny salary I dont think it has much chance.

    Tampa went all in a few years in a row with Brady, they likely have to take their medicine and rebuild rather than trying to go again with the likes of Rodgers, especially if it means giving up cheap draft picks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,212 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I forgot they were in cap hell next year. No chance he goes there but there's plenty of interesting landing spots.

    I just can't see him staying with the Packers. It's pretty clear he doesn't get on with Le Fleur. Taking a QB when he needed a receiver and then not paying DeVante have really soured the relationship between them.



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