"Nobody cares about Covid anymore"

These lads really sound like religious zealots.

The magic piece of fabric will protect me from all evil.

Again, more of this "Dynamic, fluid situation", "on the fly" "Only in hindsight" rubbish.

The national maternity hospital only started allowing fathers to be at the birth of their child in August 2021, 18 months after the start of the pandemic. Just one example out of many of the moronic bullshit still in effect long, long, long after the window for "we didn't know enough about it" had passed.

Your gaslighting is pathetic, repeatedly trying to gloss over what actually happened by pushing this narrative.

It was a dynamic situation, it was a global pandemic with a new disease, most of us haven't experienced something on that level before.

Okay. Even at that stage we hadn't experienced the highest spike in cases. It's a hospital, they are highly sensitive, even now you can't go in without a mask. If you want to subjectively think it was "moronic bullshit" okay, but I am very sure that not all hospital staff and health professionals may have agreed with you. Just because you personally think something is "BS" doesn't automatically make it so.

Conversely it doesn't mean you are wrong either, it may have been time to open it up, different hospitals have different situations, some were better ventilated than others, some were using slightly different local rules.

Again it's not something black and white. It's complex. And dynamic.

Not all the rules on a national level magically made sense in every individual and local situation. As mentioned there were rules and particular measures I disagreed with, that doesn't automatically make me right, it doesn't mean I get to emotively blast all measures.

Does it though?

I'm fairly sure the mask prevents you from spreading it but makes very little difference in getting it.

I supported mask wearing at the time and most of the restrictions simply because I don't know much about diseases etc and most of the people that did supported restrictions.

I have no issue with people wearing them now if they so choose, it's a good idea especially if you have a sniffle or something worse.I lived in Asia for a decade and more than half the subway would be wearing masks in the winter.

I would question people's understanding of it though like yourself thinking a mask will stop you getting Covid.

Like most people I have no interest in Covid now,it's just not on my radar and I'd go weeks without even thinking about it.

And ironically, having a mask on your face is a good way to avoid being tracked by guv'mint surveillance...

They really should never stop with the "wash your hands" mantra, Covid or not ... and remember hand sanitiser doesn't kill the winter vomiting bug norovirus so don't rely on it if eating out.

And more focus on ventilation. Again not just for Covid.

Isn't your view that masks "don't prevent or stop anything"?

When you talk, exhale, and so on, you produce fine droplets. The virus travels on those droplets and spreads to other people, it's the primary way it spreads. So when you wear a mask, it reduces that spread, in cases quite significantly.

This stuff isn't opinion based, it's fact-based.

The masks are pretty awful for the environment if people are using disposables. Where we're at now is sensible, wear a mask if you want to and they must be worn in healthcare settings. Those measures are proportional to the risk. In hindsight it seems a little silly that masks weren't mandated in hospitals until COVID came in. These places are full of people with vulnerable health conditions and masks would help prevent infectious disease spreading. Outside of that, let individuals judge the risk for themselves. I say that as someone who supported most if not all of the COVID restrictions, but things have changed now due to herd immunity via infection and vaccines. Time to move on.

By the sound of it that also includes yourself, so what's the point in having a discussion with you ?