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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Jack Daw




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    These MPs writing letters about this whole Jeremy Clarkson having a go at Meghan Markle are pathetic. Have they not got any real problems to address? It's just blatant pandering to their idiotic constituents.

    If you don't like what Jeremy Clarkson has to say you can easily ignore him and if more people did that it would have a greater affect than being "offended" .Tabloid newspapers live for the opportunity to "offend" people, the people paying any heed to Clarkson are giving him and the newspaper he writes for exactly what they want and however they won't ignore him because if they did that it would mean they wouldn't be able to spend the currency of offence of social media so everyone can see how wonderful they are by getting angry with Clarkson and leaping to Meghan Markle's defence



  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭4shameee


    Extremely poor take, what he said went to far , his comments as an MP has said don't exist in a vacuum. “Hateful articles like the one written by Mr Clarkson do not exist in a vacuum, and directly contribute to this unacceptable climate of hatred and violence.” She has also received credible death threats before. Fair enough you can ignore it like a normal person , but there is a lot of people how there who lap up what a celebrity says. Could and probably will lead to more death threats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,761 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    You know the part where she said she left for the final time & someone on the private jet kneeled down beside her took off his hat & said "thank you for everything you've done for our country mam " , ...........well there is no way in hell that happened she's some spoofer

    As far as i can see the only person who seems to have a problem with Megan's mixed race heritage is Megan herself, i don't think anyone else's cares ,

    With all that said the press should just leave them but alone nobody deserves to be harassed, Im not a fan of either at all but let them live there life's



  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭4shameee


    Why not? People absolutely lick up to famous people.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,761 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    You can tell by how she said it, She said a man in a hat , then quickly said "not the polite" because he could comment then ,

    Also the lads who do the security or fly the Royals would not open there mouths unless spoke to ...FACT its protocol ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The timing of this was certainly interesting. Everyone knows that Morgan and Clarkson can't stand Meghan and yet Camilla showed up at lunch with them (around the exact time the final Netflix shows were going to air) - it's hard to imagine that this was a total coincidence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Jack Daw



    The whole "comments don't exist in a vacuum" argument is just a way for people to try and censor opinions they disagree with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭4shameee


    But here's the issue , it wasn't just an opinion.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭4shameee


    Yeah maybe you are right about the protocol bit , she's broke it loads though maybe they were more comfortable around her.



  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭4shameee


    Lucky the lunch was before Jeremy went fully unhinged.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Frankly, hearing about it I thought Clarkson was taking a piss. It was so obvious that he wouldn't lose a wink over her.

    But even joking about it is so no no. It was a suicidal move. His career is over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    You could easily ignore what Meghan said also instead of being offended and throwing a strop about it lol



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    A lot of comedians got away even with jokes about Auschwitz. Yet too many people took it seriously to let him get away with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,138 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    He isn't a comedian.

    Also incel fantasy torture porn isn't funny even if he was.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Jeremy Clarkson has always been a knob so it’s no surprise. To punching the Irish man because of his diva ways and describing those who kill themselves by jumping in front of trains as selfish.

    Previously in a sun column he wrote Referring to those who jumped in front of trains as "Johnny Suicide", Clarkson said trains should resume their journey as soon as possible following a suicide and leave the body parts for scavenging animals.

    Him and the scum sun are well matched.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,077 ✭✭✭✭end of the road





    no it isn't.

    she was the victim of racism, that is just a fact.

    whatever type of person she may or may not be in the minds of the far right who are desperate to victim blame and victim shame, won't change the facts of what happened.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,077 ✭✭✭✭end of the road



    you won't have to look very far to find it within the RF.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The main bit that has been quoted is what has caused the most offence, but the entire article was downright nasty - saying Harry was a mere "glove puppet" to his horrible wife, how she talks "claptrap" and "bo**ocks", that she's a total fake and will dump him soon etc. How on earth this ever got past a newspaper editor is anyone's guess.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,938 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well then they should name and shame who made the remark they mentioned in the Oprah interview. They said they wouldn’t because it would be damaging to the person or words to that effect. Well no **** it would and you can’t have racist comments made, but they didn’t make it clear and so left it hanging over people who were included by association. I have no time for the institution of monarchy as I have many times but that isn’t a reason to just cast them all as racists.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    4shameee threadbanned



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Faugheen and walshb - quit the bickering. If you think something is racist just report it and leave it to the mods to review



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 babliss2009


    My problem with the Clakeson article is it’s normalising a vile fantasy about humiliating a woman. The fact it was approved to be published in a national newspaper is mind boggling. All for free speech up to the point it’s hate speech.

    Minor point - so what if he’s “Harry Markle” - it’s saying that taking your spouses name means you’re lesser.. so what does that say about how he feels about women? (I know, think that’s clear from the rest of the article)

    I find a lot of what Harry and Meghan complain about eye rolling - I was all for them leaving, thought they were so right to leave but guys, get over it! Take your millions and enjoy them OR make a career in show business but you can’t have your content all about how you don’t want to be famous.

    confession: I did think when they got together what would their kids look like, I think I said I really hope they look like her! She is much better looking than him. Id love to know who asked what the child would look like..



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I think Clarkson thought he could somehow get away with it because everyone in the right wing press was having a go at them. But the tone was completely off the wall.....really nasty and vindictive and offensive. It should never have been published.

    Whatever the rights and wrongs of H & M vs the RF, the press coverage is bonkers and hard to justify. These tabloid guys are nasty at the best of times and probably see demonising the pair as good for online clicks and newspaper sales.

    As others have mentioned further up though, the relationship between the RF (and I'm including Harry & Meghan) and the tabloid press is a very strange one. The monarchy mightn't even exist without the relentless royal coverage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭JoChervil




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,045 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Perhaps another memory lapse, like her collaboration with Finding Freedom completely slipped her mind? She could only manage to remember that in court ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Abolish the monarchy. Clarkson & Camilla have done Meghan and Harry a huge favour. They’ve proven correct everything they claimed in the documentary. Camilla meets Clarkson and Piers for a Christmas lunch do - next thing we’ve a vile article printed about Meghan by Clarkson. The silence from the Royal Family is defending - rest assured if it was one of the other members of the family, they’d have come out swinging. Queen Elizabeth would not stand for this - the Queen consort meeting publicly with ‘journalists’ who then produce one of the most hate filled, violence inducing articles I’ve read in the British press in modern times.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No idea how "She looks white" could be racist. She is half white after all. From what I see, most people who have a black parent and a white parent look black (e.g. Obama, Halle Berry) but some look white (Maya Rudolph, Rashida Jones, and Meghan).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 55,694 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Hmm.. proved everything they’ve claimed in documentary true? I think I, and maybe you, need a lie down.



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