Tesla Model Y

@JOHNNYBEGOOD 123 - "Low ball offer they gave me for my 201 M3 SRplus Blue/white, 25,000 KM. 38 K offered."

Tesla don't do trade ins. They just make a quick call to 3 of their traders and pass on what they get from the trade to take your car away. You're better off selling your car yourself privately or even into the trade. Although I doubt a lot of traders will give you more than €38k as it stands. Still not bad as it is 3 years old and cost you €49k or so?

You successfully argued against your own point about those advertised prices, @joe1303l 😀

The likes of ZuCar will have to drop their prices. Nobody is any longer going to pay €48k for a 3 year old EV that was €49k new. People didn't even pay that on the top of the market unless they were in some sort of insane hurry to get a car.

Bit of a perfect storm, all those late 2019 / early 2020 Model 3 are coming into the second hand market and there are other choices out there now. If I had one, and was planning to sell it, I'd try and sell it asap.

What colour is yours, and does it have enhanced autopilot?

and additional Tesla warranty?

I noticed that too. Flick of a switch for them. Not that it makes much of a difference in the EU right now, but it does give you the opportunity to upgrade to FSD for half price, about €3750 iirc

FSD beta in North America is now available for free to anyone of the one million or so Teslas that have FSD over there. It is very, very good

I'm getting a bit wary of selling my own Model S with FSD as I get the feeling that if we get into that program within the next year or two, it will no longer be able to buy it or it will be prohibitively expensive (currently already $18k over there) and I will never be able to afford to get it in future

We all change, I think that's one of the nicer things of life 😁

I'm very interested in autonomous driving, have been for many years. Now I have a car with FSD and might just have to wait until it is more useful. Also the Model S is more suitable to my needs than any other car at the moment. And my car is realistically worth a couple grand less than it was 2 months ago when I ordered Model Y, making the deal less attractive to me - basically buying a brand new better built but lesser, slower and not as nice looking a car but with full warranty - a head over heart decision in the first place (getting the subsidy and getting into an almost guaranteed very low depreciation car)

I don't care much about lack of PDC / radar and I don't really care if the Model Y is coming from China or Berlin and what LiFePO4 battery it has, but because of the above, I'm starting to get cold feet now about changing to Model Y

Tesla would want to charge top money anyway. The EAP is just a little teaser to attract a buyer. It costs Tesla nothing to offer it.

Again, I think you are hitting the nail on the head. The Model 3 is bound to take a massive depreciation hit in the next few months. It's only natural, it's just delayed. They kept their value exceptionally well but if you can buy a brand new Model Y for just a few grand more than a 3 year old Model 3 is advertised for, then you know the writing is on the wall.

I don't disagree with most of that @Kramer

I'll go one further, I know for a fact that people took delivery of their white €50k Model 3 earlier this year and drove it straight from the delivery location to a grey market dealer who offered them €2k more for it.

That was then though and this is now. That €48k advertised 3 year old Model 3 is now worth no more than €38k (and if I were trying to sell one, I'd bite your hand off for that). It could very well be worth more than this come next July if the grant is gone completely. Or if the price of a new Model Y is upped by several grand.

Apparently ships with Q1 MY orders for Ireland are due to arrive in the last week of January. Tesla Dublin have transporters booked for early Feb, so we could see first RWD delivered mid-Feb if the above is true.

I've been watching that one descend in price rapidly. I really don't like the white trim in the M3 and even less the black and white trim, otherwise that is a record deal. All their used cars dropped in price today by 3-4k. I guess they want to flush out the stock for the end of year sales figures, and as mentioned above, in advance of the incoming traded in M3s that MY buyers will be providing. The prices now are what I had hoped for back in March.

Different market but in the UK their used cars have also dropped in value to around 37k EUR upwards. Would suck for someone who had bought it a car last week for the inflated prices. I still wonder will Tesla keep these new prices as we run into January. They do lots of short term changes in prices I have noticed, up 3k one day, down 4k the next week. Meanwhile the market rates from dealers are now totally unrealistic, like 54k for a 2019 LR in blue. I reckon Tesla will drop the price on new M3s before March to around 50k with further included colours. After all, they have no USS or radar.....

Got it. I meant the white trim and black seats then. I guess on price I was looking to the lower scale reductions and 2019 and 2020 LRs.