Liffey valley to start charging for parking

Most people think shops pay rent and that's it.

Some shops pay a straight forward rent, but many are on a basic + % turnover rent. I would suspect at least 50% of retailers are on a turnover based rent. - In the likes of Kildare Village EVERY retailer is on a turnover based rent

The liffey valley foodcourt is all a small basic + % of turnover rent.

I'm in the retail game for over 30 years. i know several of the retailer in Liffey Valley and also i Retail Excellence who are the umbrella group for retailers.

There is almost universal positive reports from traders in Liffey valley as it has got rid of the scourge of all day parkers that were either in the offices around the place or left the cars and went on the bus that was causing a large portion of spaces to be used.

The other scourge was staff parking beside the entrances and taking up all the prime spaces. This is gone too. Some do have concerns about the barrier system and people needing to know their registration number, buts its only a few.

But overall there is huge support for the charges by the retailers themselves.

Thanks so much, this is a very interesting info.

Two of my kids work at LV, so I regularly drop then off / pick them up, usually at the staff carpark entrance. There's now always a steady stream of people walking to and from the retail park (with free parking)

I reckon zara were waiting for 3 or 4 shops in a row to become vacant. Huge amount of work gone into that shop, its the nicest shop in the centre now. Also, M&S completely revamped their food section. So that end is pretty impressive now.

Worldwide cuntishness snowballs. Why not cut people a break. There is clearly capacity for all the cars in the retail park but hey, we can screw the common man and woman, let's be conts.

Frankly I'm depressed and ashamed

Was busy when I was there. But the real test is when the sales are finished

He's a @veryangryman though 😂

Any reports on the traffic situation? Has the model of fleecing people for parking helped in this regard? I was in Blanch the other day and it was utter carnage. If paid parking was introduced there and it helped with the traffic situaton it would be a good thing. But paid parking has to help resolve traffic.

I avoid the place as much as possible these days, the traffic to get there is a nightmare unless you go early.

I was for a run over that way on the first Sat afternoon of Dec, couldn't believe how quiet the car park was a for a sat day, traffic outside it was a disgrace.

The foot fall is definitely down, but is that down to the cost of living in general? I know the owner of one shop and the manager of a restaurant there, both said business was down by 30% or so

Yeah I'm the same, i used to regularly pop in bit have only gone there once since you had to pay for parking.

However, another thing I've noticed is how badly laid out the lanes are that have been redeveloped. They're really badly designed. You end up constantly having to switch from one lane to another when you're approaching roundabout, there's no real "flow" to them. Also, that new T-junction that replaced the roundabout is dreadful. The lines of vision aren't great and it's actually tricky to go around the corner at anything but a crawl or you'll drift into the neighbouring lane or bump the curve. As a result, everyone crawls through the junction and feck all cars get through on each lights sequence. 🤷