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Nissan Ariya

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,176 ✭✭✭✭josip


    MY RWDs ordered now (without a towbar) have an estimated delivery date of Feb/Mar 2023.

    It's quite likely that MY won't have USS so there will be no parking assist. Coming soon when/if Tesla cracks the vision conundrum allegedly.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Upgraded Autopilot can be added after delivery, it's a software update so you just order it via the App and the car updates itself, no need to visit service centre etc. This will keep cost of car under the grant cut off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    i can understand that, Tesla styling is very bare inside and an acquired taste, I mean ( and again this is utterly subjective) , Nissan as an overall brand has a bland image , individual Nissan cars ( like the Arya) are fine looking cars

    Tesla has a cool fresh and exciting image, Nissan seen as less cool than Toyota and Toyota has never been seen as cool

    im getting too philosophical now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    By whom exactly?



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I didn’t know that. It’s still an extra expense though and the Ariya has that as standard on the Evolve. Obviously we got in before the price change though so no doubt the price of the Ariya when it comes available again would make it a very different conversation.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Keoin18


    Spoke to my dealership, my poor point of contact is still sick so got some info from another helpful fella that my car is/was on the Serenity Ace (en route to Rotterdam at this min) It stopped in Zeebrugge before so he wasn't sure what boat is delivering it to Ireland or when.

    At least its this side of Europe!



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    It landed after Weser Highway’s latest depart to Dublin. It’s about here now so with luck will be heading back to Zeebrugge tomorrow/Thur on another Dublin trip and yours on it 🤞🤞. Knowing it was on the Serenity is prob as much as they know but if it’s on the Weser’s next trip, they’ll know within 24 hours of that if it’s landed 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Ariya Evolve list €52,995 (Advance €48,995) after grant vs Model Y €54,190 after grant ?? Tesla def a subjective choice, bare inside..



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    The Y with the cheaper of the paints…different paints cost more..1,316 Teslas reg YTD vs only 60 Ariyas, so the Ariya quite a rarity..Bjorn Niland on YouTube is a decent independent electric tester, lots of good stuff, appears reliable, a reasonable fan of the Ariya and its range..



  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Keoin18


    Yeah that was my thinking too. Dublin port doesn’t seem to see that far in the future though. Another week to wait early Xmas present!!

    🤞



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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Mind you, range is really a function of your regular journeys. City driving will always provide better outcome than motorway, late 50 kWH or 60s kWH cars not ones for frequent motorway driving range wise = definite range anxiety ! We’ve a 2016 BMW 330e at present - pre 2018 has only best 32km battery range (Post then hybrids c. 50 kms before you turn on the aircon, lose 6-7 km range if it’s on). Interesting bit is that recently my spouse was breaking the m’way speed limit when we’d battery power. The car knew, switched off battery and the ICE came on (not loud but slightly noticeable), and suggested she might want to slow down ! Wasn’t a hugely popular view 😃😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You're new at this trolling I think 😃



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭costin


    @Corporatemarky Bjorn Nyland just ordered a new Tesla M3 not an Ariya. Also there seems to be a lot of confusion about Tesla autopilot.

    Tesla autopilot is free of charge. Enhanced autopilot and full self driving capability (both just software features) are extra.

    Ariya was a good deal when price was under 50k if Nissan could deliver. However Nissan can't manufacture at cost yet, therefore only few Evolve models were allocated for Ireland.

    As per my previous post, dealers are taking advantage of this and want extra.

    By the way is any of you paying under 56k for an Ariya Evolve? List price was always 55k not 52... We are talking now acquisition price.

    Fact that only few Ariya are on the road is a big disadvantage on the longer run, not an advantage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭costin


    You have all Bjorn Nyland tests here

    Ariya 170/250 Wh/km at 90/120 vs 150/200Wh/km for a MY LR. Tesla MY RWD will be more efficient (see M3 RWD LFP) as car is lighter and has bit less power than MY LR.

    The 250 Wh/km means 220-230 km range on motorway in warmish weather. In today's wether condition will be 170-180 km. Note that measured battery by Bjorn is 58.5KW not 63! The Model 3/Y LFP battery usable capacity is 57.5 (line 195) so it's like for like but much more efficient drive train on Tesla.

    On an EV you will see that range matters a lot in all weather conditions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭costin


    Also charge speed is a big deal while on motorway in Ireland. On Tesla you can take advantage of the superchargers - up to 170KW (Indeed only a handful of supercharges) while for the rest you are limited at 50KW... Hopefully this will change with the adoption of more EVs but it's shocking that are no 100+KW CCS chargers yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Our Evolve is €55k with the nappa leather seats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭digitaldr


    Contacted my dealer today about the Green Evolve 63kwh we ordered in May (wanted red but told wasn't available)

    Apparently Nissan still can't give them a delivery date! Anyway they had 3 available in January (they're in Zeebrugge at the moment). All Evolves, 63kwh and dark interiors. We choose the ceramic grey - when I say we I mean my wife! I would have preferred the copper.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    My 63 kW Evolve invoice was Sept 22, and pre grant €57,995 before paint, €52,995 grant deducted. As above. No idea what other dealers could be doing. I see Nissan’s Nov 22 model price list no longer has the Ariya there…



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭costin


    @Corporatemarky and how much was the paint and other extras? All Ariya comming now are dual tone so 53k is not the final price.

    Did the dealer also added compulsory paint and leather treatment?



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    €900 for 2 tone Pearl white/black roof, no compulsory anything on top..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    But with prior experience I’ll probably take the paint/fabric treatment inside n out (Supagard). Had it on last 3 new ones and a great finish partic outside. I’ve never heard of ‘compulsory’ treatment..optional €400 if we want it, on a par with prev costs..garage arranges that not Nissan..



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭costin


    Nissan dose not sell direct like Tesla. My point was that grages are taking advantage of this situation and inflate pricess. Be aware again that invoice price can't be more than 60k including all extras. In my case was a bit over 61k... This had triggered the post...



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Definitely worth being aware of the invoice limit when spec’ing an EV partic if close to the €60k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    There are other 150kw+ chargers around e.g. Ionity and Ecars have some.

    Last time I counted Tesla had more than both of them combined at 58, but Ecars are continuously (slowly) adding new 150kw chargers.

    A big advantage of the supercharging is the integration with the car where it will automatically include a charging stop, preheat as required for max.speed and knows the availability of chargers enroute in real time. No manila route planning needed. And just stop, plug in and walk away, no apps,barcodes, pressing buttons etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    Having been in a couple of Model Ys and 3s it's cured me of wanting a Tesla at all, and I'd land firmly in the minimalist camp.

    I'd pick an Ariya for both interior and exterior every time (if it wasn't so dear). Tesla software might be great and all, but forcing you to interface with a screen and take your eyes off the road to switch stuff on/off is a retrograde step. Great if you happen to have the EAP and do your driving on motorways. Less so for the bulk of R and L roads.

    Only decent looking car Tesla ever made was the S, and that's long over due a refresh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Was going to see if we could get our hands on one of those other two if they were still available but spoke to our dealer this morning and he confirmed that ours is en route. Currently on a boat that stopped off in Greece last week and then went on to Spain. Not sure exactly when the car is due into Dublin yet but that it’s on the way is the main thing so happy days. We’re not in any great rush so if it’s ends up being Feb before it gets here it’s no great shakes.

    Gotta feel for the dealers on these ones though. I can only imagine what a pain in the backside all this is for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Only decent looking car Tesla ever made was the S, and that's long over due a refresh


    I agree with you highly on that both inside and outside its the best looking Tesla. I wonder will they replace it. All the others have that horrible half finished front lip at the front of the bonnet which looks like it could be dangerous if it hit a pedestrian. Then again being Tesla that would not surprise me.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Viewed mine in the garage this evening (😎😎😎). Chatting to the lads there, v lucky and only a few more expected for rem 2022/2023 incl those already en route. Of the 60 already registered that includes demo cars and ones Nissan Irl have, looks like they’ll be as rare as hens teeth on the road. I see Nissan have taken the Ariya off their model price lists. It’ll be lovely in the grey..



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Dealers ARE very frustrated!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh




  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    They’re preparing it pre Christmas, registering on 3 Jan and I should have it 4/5 Jan. Of the accessories list, Nissan Irl only have 3 in stock, I’m getting mudguards and boot sill protectors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    According to Euro NCAP? Model Y was safest car ever tested just 3 months ago. 8% safer for pedestrians than an Ariya

    Even the older Model 3 does much better than the new Ariya.

    You mightn't like the look of a ground up EV without a big fake grille but no need to imply they're cutting corners on safety



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Agreed, Tesla have always scored well on safety but they have cut corners on build quality in the past. Hopefully the MIC cars coming to Ireland will be decent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Weser Highway due into Dublin tonight. I blame @Corporatemarky for my newfound obsession! 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Please post up pics of your newly acquired Ariyas as soon as you get them folks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Killer K


    Saw one of these in the metal parked up on the street yesterday. Thought it was a Skoda from the rear until I got up closer. Lovely looking car.



  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Keoin18


    Me too!! Been tracking it the last few days!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    That is good to hear then.


    I have nothing against ground up EVs.

    The more the better. I think it's great and about time too.

    I much prefer them over an ICE car.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky




  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Keoin18


    Now the boat is in nothing more to track! Waiting on the dealership now!


    separate note, that I’m sure most folks know this but only found out 2 days ago that you don’t need proof of vehicle or purchase any more for the money back on the charger grant. Electrician docs, pic of on site charger really!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Did you speak to the garage 2 see if the Weser landed yours ? 🤞🤞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭digitaldr


    I got my charger fitted a few weeks ago. Wanted something minimalistic so went for an EO. Whole process was surprisingly easy. Grant application only took a few minutes - once the charger is installed I just had to upload two forms that the installer had filled in plus a few photos of the install. Still waiting for my money though!



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    Got mine in early 2021, was c. 5 weeks before got the credit after proof of installation



  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Keoin18


    good to know re: around 5 weeks on funds back


    Confirmed mine is in the country!


    will be new year before registered though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I think mine was on the Tranquil Ace so didn’t make Zeebrugge on time. Only got in there on Wednesday. Hopefully that means it’ll be here next week when the Weser Highway gets back in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky




  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 Just in with Ioniq 5 sales guy with a couple of bottles to say sorry (going with Ariya) and thanks cos he was really helpful. We are definitely in the very lucky bracket, a dealer he worked with, now Nissan in Mayo, was shocked to find some are getting in ! We happy few 👍👍👍



  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Keoin18


    I’m

    Like hens teeth! Saw a black one in the wild today, really nice.

    kinda of confused with the staggered approach to some of the deliveries, seems like one car here one car there kind of thing



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky




  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Corporatemarky


    At least 10 Ioniq 5s inside the showroom (incl the one I passed up), and lots of them outside. All for reg and collection first days of Jan…



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