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Buying an English reg Bike in Ireland

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  • 21-12-2022 11:48pm
    #1
    Cz455syn
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭


    Hi Guys,

    I am looking for advice on purchasing an English reg bike stored in Ireland since last summer. I’ve looked and looked but can’t seem to find this scenario exactly.

    What am i liable to be caught for here? I will have a hand written receipt from the private sale showing January 2023 which is when I intend to purchase it.

    I know I will have a customs charge of 10% and will have to VRT. Do I have to pay VAT? Looks like cars over 7 months old with 8000kms or more are exempt from VAT. Is there something similar for Motorcycles?

    I am a bit lost about the correct procedure here as it landed in Ireland about 6 months ago and I won’t have taken ownership of it in that time.



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    #2
    myclist
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭myclist


    You will have to pay VAT. All imported Uk mainland vehicles are subject to vat since brexit.



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    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I'm willing to be corrected, but I think you'll need proof of when it was imported... You've got a very limited time to register it here... So there could be some sort of punitive charge.

    Proof of import can be something along the lines of a ferry ticket...



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    newmember2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    Tell them you bought it off a lad in NI, they won't be looking for ferry tickets then.



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    #5
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    They'll know by the registration... There is a difference between Britain and the north of Ireland



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    goblin59
    Registered Users Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭goblin59


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030225#Comment_120030225

    they want proof of import. They can tell by registration



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    Sir Galahad
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Sir Galahad


    ANPR cameras in Dublin port pick up every vehicle leaving the port. The customs check the system. So make sure your ducks are in the correct line before you tie yourself up.



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    newmember2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030246#Comment_120030246
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030543#Comment_120030543

    Believe it or believe it not but there are mainland UK registered vehicles in NI.



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    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    Pretty sure your not allowed buy an English reg car/bike in Ireland as an Irish citizen.

    Needs to be vrtd before you buy it



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    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Believe it or not, the import is based on where it's registered, not where you pretend to have bought it...



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    goblin59
    Registered Users Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭goblin59



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031784#Comment_120031784

    I meant the V5C which is the owners registration document. They go off the address that is registered in. I'm well aware that there are mainland bikes in NI.

    If the bike is originally registered in england this isnt a problem once the V5C has an NI address, but the change of address on the V5C needs to be before 2021.

    But they will want proof of entry into NI for any mainland UK registered to show it entered before 2021, they added that requirement this year.



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    Bluefoam
    Registered Users Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    OP, why don't you just tell them it's really an Irish bike? They'll have to believe you...



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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    You will need a Customs agent to complete the paperwork after the TCA.



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    #14
    muddle84
    Registered Users Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭muddle84


    You can contact Citizens Information and they will tell you exactly what you need to do



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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030225#Comment_120030225

    Yes they will. They'll read the V5.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    goblin59
    Registered Users Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭goblin59


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120123096#Comment_120123096

    New rules brought in last year require proof of entry into NI on any vehicle.

    I went through all this with my own bike last october.

    If you legit had the bike in NI before the cut off point then MOT certs, purchase receipts, ferry bookings and basically anything that shows the bike has been in Northern Ireland and has a date and the reg plate on it will do



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    #17
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 35,058 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Either get the seller to clear the bike before purchase or walk away. No need to be dealing with cleaning up someone else's mess.

    © 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd



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    jimbev
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭jimbev


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127871#Comment_120127871

    This all day long



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    #19
    Cz455syn
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭Cz455syn


    Thanks for all the responses. I have the bike now. I had to engage with a customs broker for a small fee and had to pay 6% customs duty and 23% VAT. I sent a supporting letter from the company that stored the bike in Wexford to say that I collected the motorcycle from their unit after I purchased it from the Uk owner. No question of shipping fees being added after that. Just waiting in my VRT appointment now.



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    Hocus Focus
    Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Hocus Focus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120310637#Comment_120310637

    How much did the customs agent charge, just for future reference in case I might find a bargain bike in GB?



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    scoots
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭scoots


    would anybody know what way customs and vat is chargeable on a bike brought in from the north, as in custom% vat% is it on the price of the bike or is it on the amount of vrt? the bike im looking at is a private sale, would a hand written receipt be acceptable?



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    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,330 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Afaik you only pay VRT if the bike was registered in NI before 1/1/2021 or if newer, it's first registration was in NI (i.e. never registered elsewhere in the UK).

    Not 100% whether VAT is chargeable or not.

    Regulations are meant to ease further in the near future from what I've read elsewhere on Boards.

    Not your ornery onager



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