Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

ah yeah, because most people who murder someone go around the local community telling everyone they did it! the bottom line is they have absolutely noting that places Bailey at the scene of the crime.

She usually wore her watch on her right wrist, it had a black leather strap, seen in several photos. It was in the house after the murder.

Foster has no source in Schull, he's a spoofer.

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Yeah, I overlooked your point that they have nothing that places Bailey at the scene.

Principally because of the fact that Bailey was one of the first people at the murder scene and spent quite some time there before the scene was properly secured to ensure their could be no cross contamination of forensic evidence.

Alfie Lyons. Next door. Claimed he wasn't sure if Sophie was there or not despite the rental car and lights being on. Had bandaged hand after "dog bite" despite not having a dog. Inquired which guard was investigating when he got reply -"Good. I know him". Yes he knew him. He was the guard who "botched" the earlier drug bust on Alfie. Mysterious background. Allegedly lived in the US, returned speaking Italian and Russian. Seemed to have a family living at the Basil Bush restaurant who disappear to be replaced by Shirley. Alfie's "death" was not reported on Rip.ie or in any newspaper. Despite being allegedly dead for over two years his estate hasn't been through probate, despite the property transferring to Shirley and being sold. Was getting mail delivered at 6.30 p.m. on a Sunday (unbelievable). Was in a dispute with Sophie about the gate. Subsequently bought a sliver of land at the rear of Sophie's cottage he had to pass over to get to his place.

I thouht he had to go through the Garda cordon on the pretext of delivering fuel to the Lyons' ?

For someone who says he wants to get on with his life Bailey seems to be always putting himself front and centre in this case.

He was commenting on it again only a few days ago, I think he secretly likes the attention he gets from all of this.

It depends who or what he was. If he was a retired or semi-retired FBI undercover agent in the US sent to the back of beyond for a new life the reluctance of law enforcement to go after him is eminently explainable. There is bucket fulls of circumstantial evidence against him.

The circumstantial evidence against Bailey is he was feeling randy in the middle of the night and left a house full of women to trudge around the dark and cold lanes of West Cork. And a few scratches on his hand.

That would be regarded as motive rather than evidence.

But let's list the circumstantial evidence against Bailey.

• Scratches on his arms that were not there on Sunday.
• Changing his story about what he did after the pub on the Sunday night.
• No alibi for the night of the murder.
• Ambiguity about knowing Sophie.
• The bonfire a few days after the murder.
• The early arrival at the murder scene that was noted by Gardai.
• A history of violence against women.
• Telling multiple people that he did it.

That list is pretty much well know, I remember it from the West Cork podcast so I'm not making any of it up.

What can you list as regards circumstantial evidence against Alfie Lyons ?

Personally, I don't take too much heed with regards to any French Connection. The three stooges couldn't pull off a more incompetent murder if they tried...

The Bailey angle is highly unlikely too.... Apart from the logistics on the night, he would never have cleaned himself up without leaving one iota of evidence behind him... Remember, he was living with a Family of women & their guest(s). And then to carry on the following morning without betraying one inkling of remorse, panic, paranoia or fear, is just off the richter scale.....

There was also several shady characters knocking around the neighbourhood at the time of the murder too.

However, given the nature of the attack, and the absolute lack of any evidence at the scene... Could this have been a total random murder... A hippie type nomad looking to lay down for the night, maybe expected the holiday cottage to be empty... Was confronted by an ill tempered Sophie... (and the rest is history)??

Random murders are the hardest to detect & solve - The Sophie murder ticks a lot of the random murder boxes.

Yes I can see that now, a small triangle 12/15 sq mtrs across the lane. Looks like a turning or parking spot for Sophie's property. It changed hands in 2008, probably the same time as the shed. The bit where she parked her car by the Eastern gable actually belonged to the Richardsons. The ownership of the shed was easy enough to establish as it was clearly marked as being on Alfie's property and Sophie would have had to accept that. There may have been some agreement between the previous owners about sharing the shed or allowing the previous owners of Alfie's property access to it. By the looks of things at the time of her murder Sophie appeared to closing off that access with the erection of the 2 gates in the year before her murder. The clip below from the French documentary a long while after the murder, shows the ground and the gate to the rear of Sophie's house. The ground rises sharply from Sophie's house up to Alfie's , I reckon over 6mtrs, and once you pass onto Alfie's lane at Sophie's Eastern gable there is no access to his landlocked property including his shed without going through Sophie's property, either through the gate at the rear of house or through the other new gate into the bottom of her lawn.

To the point made above about a first year law student rebutting any case here that the prosecution could establish against Ian Bailey, well in fairness the prosecution counsel in the murder trial is likely to be closer to the Paul Gallagher SC (former Attorney General) end of the scale and someone every bit as skilled and effective as Mr Gallagher was in his cross examination of Bailey during the failed libel case brought by Bailey against newspapers that quite rightly described him as the chief suspect in the murder.