"Nobody cares about Covid anymore"

But...

A low percentage of a small number is a very low number. A low percentage of a very large number is a large number.

If the total number of deaths goes way up, then the absolute number of young people dying also goes way up.

You don't understand the statistics you are quoting. You don't understand the difference between life expectancy at birth and life expectancy at age attained.

And it was never just about protecting those over 80. It was also about protecting the health services capacity to function and treat everyone. - especially those who could be saved from covid with hospital care. People with manageable conditions with decades of life expectancy ahead of them. The largest demographic in ICU during Covid first wave in Ireland were people aged 55-64.

20% of Covid deaths in the US were under 65. A further 20% were under 80.

We were not alone in this approach.

England had to reluctantly do same, as the NHS was on trajectory for being overwhelmed.

Care to explain how Germany, France, Netherlands, Denmark, Canada all reacted as they did? It's not due to nonsense about HSE rostering.

a) Actions around nursing homes and hospitals and health settings were updated as more was learned about the virus, the initial few months did a lot wrong that was learned from.

b) It's funny you're quoting small numbers of deaths that occurred during lockdowns and restrictions while completely ignoring the elephant pooping all over you of those numbers being much larger without lockdowns and restrictions.

c) The pearl clutching that goes on because a father wasn't able to attend a birth yet all "old" people were gonna just die anyway is absolutely ridiculous, pick a lane.

Well theres more to it than deaths.

We didn't copy China. They actually did a hard lockdown. Our lockdown was more of lockdown lite.

They always discharge people with issues to nursing homes. You generally don't send people in perfect health and no issues to nursing homes.

Healthy people work in nursing homes, visit them. Not sure how you still can't connect the dots on that one.

I posted this back on the 18th.

He has tested negative for Covid since Tuesday, but due to a dangerous spiking fever and severe confusion and hallucinations, he was taken to Hospital by Ambulance last night.

On arrival, his BP and O2 sats were very low.

Thankfully, they have pushed fluids into him and he is resting with an oxygen mask and a few other treatments to ease his symptoms and is communicating normally and sleeping peacefully most of the time. His wife was told another day at home as he was, may have led to permanent organ damage.

I wanted to post this update for those who might still be dismissing the risks of the illnesses that are out there.

Yes my relative has Crohn's, but he is only 40 years old and is otherwise extremely fit and very active and well living.

Please be concious of those around you who may not handle relatively common viruses as well as you do.

As if Boards didn't need another feckin' Covid thread. There's already a busy forum so why is this here?

So what do you suggest we do? Permanently lockdown? A raft of hard restrictions? Would that satisfy you? Covid is never going away and the vulnerable will always be exposed to it unless you’re advocating for a permanent lockdown?

Ah yes, caring deeply about Covid :

You do realise that modelling is an accepted scientific practice and that the analysis of post-event outcomes is also an accepted scientific practice, to inform the next level of modelling and research, right?

Arguing both for and against science in the same sentence is about as stupid as stupid gets.

Did the science fail at points? Sure it did. But it succeeded at others.

Those expecting crystal ball levels of scientific prediction, in response to a new and heretofore unknown coronavirus, would want to have a very sober word with themselves, as to what is realistic and what is not.

Me, I applaud the scientists the World over, that worked themselves to exhaustion trying their best to help, with all their skills and the information available.

Hospitals and similar always had restrictions before COVID. Maybe understand why.

I answered your question.

If you don't like the answer. Maybe you should ask a better question.