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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    My "point" is only relatively relevant to some.

    I would have imagined a flight-simmer kid, such as yourself would appreciate the info, although judging by your comment, I'm sure your interests far outweigh mine. I might recommend putting me on ignore, though, as I do post similar comments quite a lot.

    Fair warning!

    😉



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Surely seeing the functional air forces of a real military alliance in operation is worthwhile in itself? I mean, neither Ukraine nor Russia have shown any real capability in that area this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,716 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Ukraine reported something interesting today in their daily update. For the first time, they indicated that a tiny village called Dibrova was under shelling. That would indicate that they competing for it, or at least in the vicinity. I read a few reports on Telegram yesterday suggesting that Ukraine had advanced in the forest area, but having read further reports today I think there could be something to it. I said a few weeks ago the the road to north to Svatove was potentially cut. While we can't say anything for certain yet, if Dibrova were to fall then Ukraine would have direct control over two entry points to Kreminna.

    Even to someone with no military training like me, it's clear that Kreminna is a fairly important hinge of the Russian defence. It looks far too difficult to go around, and looks far too important for Russia to abandon. This is one of the places I can see serious fighting for next year and I can't see it being easy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Putin and the like of him want to drag as many as possible down to a serf level



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Field east


    NovRussian is safe outside Russia . They can be got at and have been got at



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Field east




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    fascinating stuff…….particularly the ‘N1 12% fuel in’……..could you expand on this a bit….?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Great question, and for fear of going off topic, I'll explain briefly.

    The Beech 200 is a twin-engine turboprop aircraft. Essentially a jet engine with a propeller stuck to the front. When starting, you flick the electric starter motor to "on", wait until the rotational speed of the engine, or N1, reaches and stabilises at, or preferably above 12% of total rotation. Only then do you introduce fuel into the engine by moving the Condition lever to Low Idle. This ensures plenty of cold air flowing through the engine before ignition.

    If you introduce fuel at too low a percentage, the engine could potentially " Hot Start", which means the ITT temperature peaks way too high or goes " off scale high", causing damage.

    From a Russia v Western perspective. Most Western aircraft use electrical systems in the startup sequence, which is fine until your power goes down and you're stuck on an airstrip somewhere with no start-cart. Many Russian aircraft use compressed air, provided by a compressor on the plane, negating the need for electrical power.

    Many years ago, I took the opportunity to train in a Yak-52 at Weston. An incredibly tough aircraft with a 9 cylinder 350bhp engine. It used compressed air to rotate the engine for starting, had air brakes and the flaps and landing gear all used compressed air for operating. Russian aircraft are built to operate from unprepared and unsupported airstrips in extremes of temperatures.

    Hope that answers your question.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The success of Ukraine’s counter offensive explained in one article…

    It’s WW1 Russian tactics versus 21st century Ukrainian tactics. So that a much smaller force can defeat a larger army.

    “The power of advanced algorithmic warfare systems is now so great that it equates to having tactical nuclear weapons against an adversary with only conventional ones,” Alex Karp, the chief executive of Palantir”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-is-outflanking-russia-with-ammunition-from-big-tech-lxp6sv3qz



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Keep up the good work Greenpilot., its very interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,110 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    “Kherson. In the morning, on Saturday, on the eve of Christmas, in the central part of the city. These are not military facilities. This is not a war according to the rules defined. It is terror, it is killing for the sake of intimidation and pleasure.” - Zelensky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    the word war has been used by Putin

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Here comes the Sound of Music to Ukrainian ears and unmitigated terror to the Ruzzians. Even its appearance is terrifying, not to mention its name, Warthog. Bring them on, sooner the better.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    This makes a lot of sense to me. They would be perfect for lend lease as I understand it because the US Air Force doesn't want to keep them, but doesn't want to get rid of them either. If they lent them to Ukraine and they never came back, they were yesterday's airframe. If they perform magnificently, maybe the US will bring them back to production or a similar type concept. They are currently used by the USAF Reserve and National Guard. It's not like there is a pressing need for close air support in continental United States. So I don't see why they couldn't be given as a matter of urgency.

    At approximately $10m each, 100x warthogs would make so much more sense than patriot. As an added bonus, they are only for Close Air Support so there is a low risk of attacks in Russian territory compared with e.g. migs or F16s!

    I don't really understand why the US was concerned that they would be easily destroyed by Russian SAMs. If the Russians attacked again from Belarus, they would be too far from Russian territory, Belarus couldn't or wouldn't use their air defences for fear of getting dragged into the conflict, and so the only real threat to the Warthog would be the mobile air defences that they bring with them, which can be targetted with HARM missiles by the Migs taking up the rear. They might be at greater risk if they were used in Donbas, but you'd imagine that this would be a calculated risk or justified by absolute necessity.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The annoying part is the US saying they won't give Ukraine XYZ, only months later they row back and give them XYZ, but it will take a few months training. Like the Patriot system. Why couldn't Ukraine be training on that system months ago?


    As for Russia attacking from Belarus, well they would deploy Sam sites within Belarus and Ukraine may be reluctant to attack them on Belarusian soil. These Sam sites operated by Russia would give quite a lot of air protection for a ground force moving towards Kyiv.


    The excuse Biden gave for not giving the likes of ATACM's was ridiculous. Because they are a different sort of weapon (it's just a longer range version of what Ukraine already have) it would risk NATO or the EU breaking up. I'd love to know what NATO or EU countries (if any) are against it and would leave the Bloc/pack because the US give Ukraine a weapon to defend their citizen's being murdered, raped, kidnapped etc...

    HARM missiles were given to Ukraine early in the war, adapted to be fired from Migs, have routinely being fired at SAM sites within Russia and there's been **** all said about it from either side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Field east


    What I was getting at is that he just makes an example of on or two here and there and ‘spread the word’ that the same could happen to you/ your family if you do not cooperate with what I want you to do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    At Sivershchyna direction Russian army shelled Hirky of Sumy region, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,093 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The US should stop defining what Ukraine 'needs' or is practical. I have been fairly heavy on the point the US is doing far too little compared to it's stated objectives of what it wants Ukraine to achieve, which is to survive and defeat a country their entire arsenal is predicated on with less than 2% of it given over (made up number). The US wouldn't in a million years expect it's own armed forces to take on the Horde with only what it has given to Ukraine. Every bit of hesitancy on the part of the US is paid for by Ukraine with destroyed buildings, infrastructure, dead civilians, dead heroes in the military, and copious amounts of misery and grief.

    Had they given the Patriots 6 months ago, as they should have, there would be Ukrainians alive today who aren't.

    It's Christmas, Give them the A-10s as a present and let them worry about the practicalities.

    I wish I had saved or posted pics from about 5 months ago of an Orc BMP Ukrainians had just restored to put to use. It probably was in better nick than when it rolled off the production line. It looked like something you'd put in a car show, everything under the hood shiny and spotless. If Ukraine can build the Antanov 225 and aircraft carriers, maintain Mig-29s and Sukhoi 27's, I am confident thaey can keep a few A10's in the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭rogber


    Makes you wonder what the US really wants. Outright defeat of Russia probably serves American interests less than a long war that keeps consuming Russian money and men. Let's not kid ourselves that the well being of Ukraine is the primary factor guiding US approach to the war. There is a humanitarian element, yes, but everything has to serve broader US policy goals and a lot can play into that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭rogber


    Not exactly a new insight. This has been clear since day one of this sadistic war



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    The US would rather not have to deal with it at all. They were content with the pre Feb 22 status quo. Next is a quick defeat of Russia. Next is a negotiated settlement that the two countries can live with. The worst outcome for the US is if this keeps going on indefinitely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    True, the longer the Russians are held up in Ukraine the better for the US as Nato countries get to live more safely and outside the scope of the Russian expansionist gaze

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,093 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Bosnia, like Kosovo, is in the Russian reserve to ignite another armed conflict, - said Alexander Levchenko, Ukraine's exposol in Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina.


    This is necessary to start another war in Europe and divert attention from Ukraine.


    "As for the Croats and Bosnians in Bosnia, there is almost no pro-Russian sentiment. Republika Srpska is a completely pro-Russian enclave," he said on Espresso


    According to Levchenko, it is through her that Moscow is trying to destabilize Bosnia and Herzegovina - interethnic, interreligious tensions, clashes in the formation of the government and actions against the High Representative of the international community in the country.

    Seems plausible.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It's not just the US though. The UK have challenger tanks, Germany leopards.

    Likewise there's a raft of European jets which could be more suitable for Ukraine.

    For some reason a European country giving Ukraine a Mig or upgraded T72 is acceptable but an F16 or challenger tank is a no no.

    If the west are with Ukraine until the end, then they need western tanks and airframes. The west needs to make a long term commitment by agreeing to training Ukrainians on NATO tanks and planes.

    There's nothing to loose from the training. If/when the west finally agree to supplying the equipment, at least Ukraine soldiers will be trained

    Patriot system will be great in a few months time, Ukraine could really use it right now though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    How do we know what training has been given to Ukrainian military? They could well have been prepared on several systems in anticipation that approval would eventually be forthcoming. What happens behind the scenes, on the battlefield and in the public space are different matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭rogber


    People have been predicting the quick defeat of Russia since May and here we are at the end of the year. Contained, pushed back - yes. But outright defeat - as in pre -Feb borders and Ukrainians able to live in peace: nowhere in sight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    FSB V Russian Army.... who will win that one.

    Ukraine's military intelligence (GUR) published an intercepted phone call from a Russian soldier to his girlfriend.

    During the conversation, the trooper says that units still lack essential equipment and are quitting en masse.

    He says: "Where is this so-called new equipment, which everyone is talking about?"

    Dan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭zv2


    Someone mentioned a run on the banks in Russia. May be a rumor, but keep your fingers crossed.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭zv2


    They are attacking civilians in Kherson with phosphorous bombs-


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



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