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Russian warship, go f**k yourself!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    There was exemptions to service in Ukraine before this war started. It's not a case of getting your hands on a uniform it's more the military doesn't like to see non military people wearing the uniform. Apart from body armour and helmet I've never seen him wear Ukrainian army gear.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    What's with the chip on your shoulder or is it just normal for you



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yet in most Country's ( West, EU, UK US etc.) Ex Army stores abound. Once the military insignia's are removed. Make your choice's, pay at the cash desk, and off you go. And in terms of foot wear, winterproof and waterproof gear, its very high standard. I have an ex US military backpack I purchased in the Bazaar in Kabul, and if you wanted to, you could carry brick's in it, all day long everyday. And it would still be in very good condition by the time you were finished with it. As for Zelenski not wearing full combat gear, actually he does when he is visiting the front lines, why would he wear it going about his "normal" daily work? To put it mildly, its damned uncomfortable at the best of times, In summer its an additional heat layer, which is welcome in the winter, but that does not make it any easier to wear. So normally, he wears military singlet and pants, very comfortable and functional as they are designed to be. Slava Ukraini



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    He's visiting the leadership of a country that's providing the most to his nation's war effort. For one day. He's not on holiday there.

    The thread is renowned for the same posters repeatedly scraping the bottom of the barrel to make the most pedantic remarks or concern troll about Zelensky or the Ukrainian war effort.

    Millions of people have left Ukraine because Russia is invading it. 10's of millions have stayed and continue to stay despite the horrendous situation, attacks, mass power cuts, shortages, instability and highly dangerous situation.

    Post edited by Dohnjoe on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭Field east


    You apparently are not ‘ following the special operations ‘and what’s going on around it. I suggest that he went to America for the exact same reason that Putin went to Belarus - by third class , I assume - why he is getting war material from Iran, China , North Korea, etc, etc, etc.

    the man is entitled to travel in comfort - even if it is only to grab a few hours sleep. God, I’d love to see you in his shoes - even if it is only for the proverbial 15 minutes



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What's he doing in America... getting Uncle Joe to give him the Patriot defence system. And MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Putin is throwing a wobbler. So, a very successful trip... to answer your question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    To fire one missile from a patriot system costs 4 million while one Iranian drone is costing 30k I can't see Ukraine getting a patriot to cover every city but maybe the US fears a different kind of attack on the capital The Ukrainian army would save a lot more of their young soldiers lives if they got a heap of tanks and fighting vehicles rather than slugging it out the way they are



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I didn't check , but it was probably a train to Poland and US jet from there , probably with a fighter escort ..

    Of course he was in casual gear , it's his " look" , this was a marketing excercise,and he was on brand ..

    That's what he went for, he's keeping up his image , and why not ,

    If it had been prewar he'd have been in a suit ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Apparently one patriot system would have limited use , but it may express intent ,

    This is protecting kiev from ballistic missiles ,

    And if Russia use Iranian ballistic missiles on Ukraine , then it's free rain for Ukraine to get and use American ballistic missiles (atacms) on Russia ,

    Iran were at pains to say they were limiting the balistics they were sending to just 300 km , ( hogwash but there you go )

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    One patriot system is symbolic more than anything. I am sure more will follow, plus other anti-missile systems to complement the current supply.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    One of the major advantages of the Patriot system is its radars. They can identify, track and engage multiple targets at the same time, and this data can be relayed to other systems. So no, its not just a fire a missile and its done type system. Basically any missile can lock onto its single target and destroy it, but multiple targets at the same time? That's what makes it special. And for sure, given the Ruzzian reaction to it, there pretty worried about it



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Fintan, you seem to have a right old negative set against Zelensky. Is there anything positive about him you'd like to comment on?, and while we are on the subject, what's your opinion on Putin?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I wouldn't consider what I'm saying negative, but many people, yourself included, get easily offended at those who don't fawn at his every act.

    Putin is the leader of a terrorist state. He's the exact type of character I would expect to see leading a terrorist state. A scumbag.

    Unfortunately when Putin is dead someone else will become the leader of that terrorist state.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Right but from what I've seen you're doing it systematically. Often over the most petty of things. That isn't objective criticism.

    Neither is the attempt to repackage it as "not fawning over him".



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,283 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I was listening to RTE 1 a few mins ago and there was a Irish guy (Malachy Browne) on from the NY Times. They have made a documentary regarding the slaughter of innocent people in Bucha for their mobile phones. The Journalists have spent months checking phone records from the area by permission of the Ukrainian Government and it shows that a particular Russian paratrooper wing were the principle instigators - the victims phones were used to call relatives in Russia. Attached link to the story and video but I haven't watched it yet.

    It's called Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Kiilled Dozens in Bucha.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    Hasn't some Russian soldier come forward to give Ukraine details of his former colleagues from Bucha. Every Russian unit in Ukraine are doing the same thing



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    What you've seen and reality are often distanced I'd say.

    Can you highlight many instances where I was "systematically" critiquing Zelensky of the most petty of things??



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Criticizing Zelensky's dress sense is about as petty as you can get. And so is what flight class he travelled on. And smartass comments like if he's so busy, why did he travel all the way to the US? And Yes, I really admire Zelensky. "Cometh the hour, cometh the man" never was there a truer saying, and never a truer man to fit the bill. When they are writing this period of history, two names amongst all the greats will stand out, but for opposite reasons. Putin for the murderous evil he represented, and Zelensky for his part in stopping Putins evil. And for all your vivid descriptions of what's happening in Ukraine, the millions having to leave, the Ukrainian death toll etc. Yes, that's true, but bear one fact in mind, the cause of all this havoc is one man and one man only, and that's Vladimir Putin. And as for his replacement, maybe he will be better or worse, only time will tell, but there's one thing for sure, He (or She) will not have anything even remotely resembling what Putin had to work with back in February 2022 in terms of resources or cash. What awaits Putins replacement will be a broken economy, a disgruntled population looking for change, a coterie of Oligarchs vying for supremacy, and a possible break up of the Russian Federation. And surrounded by decidedly unfriendly Country, all armed to the proverbial teeth all because of Putins aggression. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,283 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    A Russian soldier giving oral details pales into insignificance compared to video, drone and phone evidence of war crimes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I can't remember the name of the unit in bucha , but the entire unit was subsequently given military honours for it's part in the slaughter ..

    And apparently after that was repeatedly thrown into to suicidal frontal attacks in Donbass ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    That will be true , some other scumbag will rise to the top ,

    But it's unlikely that the path will be clear and smooth -

    Their loyalty is to themselves and Putin not each other, and a continued war means less money in circulation to skim ,as well as sanctions preventing them spending their trappings of wealth.. so the push will be to blame a departed Putin, and normalize ..

    ,the in fighting could well be savage, the weaker Putin gets the more different factions will pull their own forces back to Moscow ,

    And richer or ethnically seperate individual republic leaders will also be watching, biding their time to push for independence, especially if they can draw back some of their military units ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    He could still put names to faces but I can't see facing justice



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    https://youtu.be/YyGAqHCP5zU



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭Field east


    Tucker Carlson is a simpleton and full of his own importance. Anyone close to political administration at the highest level - as is the case with Zalenskys visit to the US SHOULD KNOW that every detail of the visit are checked out / shared/@ advice given , etc.And I would be extremely surprised if this did not include An agreement re Zelenskys attire. Everything is normally planned to the last detail.

    SO Tucker , am looking forward to the day when you will qualify as a professional



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    They are some men and women, sticking it out day after day, night after night. Continuous gunfire and shelling making sleep and any kind of normality impossible. They are back a bit from the front lines, so imagine what its like at the front? The only consolation would be that the Ruzzians on the other side, are faring far worse. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    Hard going on them for sure. Hearing about the lads that get encircled. Their having to do everything the hard way.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Bring on the A-10's ASAP. 65-70 rounds per second, 80% accuracy within a 40' circle from 4'000 Feet. And a noise that will definitely waken you up if you happen to be asleep.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No use in contested airspace according to the secretary for defense



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