Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

I've seen our fixtures for January and to be honest everyone of them scares me 😂 given how we're playing. We're somehow picking up wins, hopefully that keeps happening.

We need more goals, from midfield, bur mostly our forwards, hopefully Gakpo gets 10 before end of season, and assists 5 plus, but we need Darwin and Salah to up their game, although Salah has 16 already this season.

Ah but we have the exact same one that were minutes away from the Quad

Paul Joyce has said that we more than likely won't be spending any more money in the January transfer window. If that's the case it's a f*cking disaster. I can't understand the logic.

I don't understand a comment like this. We are not City or Newcastle, we don't have unlimited money or can magic sponsors from nowhere to boost revenue streams. I don't know how much money we have to spend, but to suggest after spending 114m euro net the past 4 windows that it's a disaster if you don't spend more seems a little misguided.

I think that may be based on a statement by Klopp in relation to signing Gapko.

According to media reports, Brighton have rejected Liverpool's offer of around £60M for Caicedo, they don't want to sell the player in this transfer window for less than £70-75M. The Benfica president said that the club had rejected an offer from Liverpool for Enzo Fernandez and if the player is to leave in this transfer window the €120M clause in their contract will have to be activated. Based upon those valuations Liverpool will not be signing either of the players. Dortmund are not willing to let Bellingham leave before the end of the season.

There is rarely good value to be found in the winter transfer window as clubs aren't willing to lose their best players. For example, last season Brighton valued Yves Bissouma at £40-50M, yet were willing to sell him for £25M in the summer transfer window.

Either way it's standard practice for the club to say they won't be signing anyone unless it's at the right price , have very little money available,or not at all so they don't seem too keen .

January games with the possible FA Cup fourth round game after the Chelsea game

Not playing well, but have quietly won 4 league games in a row. Have gained 5 points over Man City, Spurs, 2 over Newcastle and a lot over Chelsea in that time at least.

Win against Brentford now tomorrow and things look a whole lot better as at least 2 from Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal & Newcastle will drop points.

Happy new year folks

Aye, while it is not at the top of the spending charts in terms of net spending, it's not at the bottom either. We are where we are with our net/gross transfer spend. The point I was trying to make, we have just spent 50m euro on a player and the expectation that we should spend more otherwise it would be a disaster is difficult to comprehend, when you consider where we are financially and otherwise as a club.

We are not one of the lowest net spend teams, we are somewhere in the middle. Added to net spend you have to consider wages as well and we are one of the bigger spenders in the world when it comes to wages. The players we are looking to attract will be looking for high wages as well. Some of the clubs mentioned that has a higher spend the past few seasons will start paying higher wages which will put a strain on their spend for the future seasons. It doesn't stand still, unless you are City or Newcastle.

Let's just remember that while Haaland only cost City 60m euro or something and that will be a stick to beat Nunez with as he was £84m - if he hits all targets - the reported wage of Haaland at almost £850k per week is what we will pay or 3 top players. I really shouldn't have replied as it is a complex issue to discuss and I don't understand half of our finances, but to boil it down to net spend, gross spend or wages only is too simple. That is before you look at spend around the club in terms of infrastructure and growth in revenue. Then you have to add whether we can sign a player from outside England in our squad at the moment as well.

So to repeat, to just blindly state it would be a disaster if we don't buy more players without looking at the whole picture is misguided. I get the poster was maybe being a bit glib with using disaster, yet his sentiment is that we need to add more players now when it is so complicated on who is available at the price we can afford (spend and wages) while complying with rules of the competitions we play in (17 players not trained in England allowed).

Tough run we have coming up.

Brentford way actually the thin end of the wedge.

Yes I am frustrated by this. We needed a midfielder last summer, and the club screwed up by not getting one (bar the loan deal for Melo - that's been going great!). Even Klopp admitted he was wrong.

Our midfield is poor, it's obvious to everyone. So what do we do, buy a forward player, which we don't really need. Albeit good value for a good player. But midfield should be the obvious priority. I find it baffling. Unless they have something secretly lined up.

Not all players would command huge wages. Amrabat for example wouldn't. Nor would he cost a huge amount to buy.

I feel with our current midfield we will not finish top 4. Not qualifying for the champions league, in my opinion, would be a disaster.

We are not looking ok in midfield numbers.

At any moment Thiago or Keita could be out for ages again.

Then it is a deteriorating Fabinho and Hendo with a mixed bag in young Elliott.

No one else currently has a serious role, not Melo, not Ox etc.

We need five, probably six reliable players for three positions but instead we have three.

Our current side is crying out for a Gerrard in midfield, not just the skill, the goals, but most importantly his absolute fighting spirit, how he doesn't give a fcking inch to an opponent.

A far cry from Thiago and Elliot, all about looking tidy, but zero fight there.

It's weird I don't get the sudden negativity towards thiago from a few people. Apart from his injury record he's been perfect for us.

On the lack of signing a midfielder it's absolutely bonkers, some fans tie themselves in knots trying to defend club decisions. The fact is we need a reliable midfielder THIS transfer window. What's going to happen this summer when a few more leave and stalwarts get older? Buy two/three starting midfielders?

Delighted with Gakpo but if he's not followed by a midfielder (which looks increasingly unlikely) we're at best 50/50 shot for top 4. For a team like ours champions League money is critical we can't spend like United etc even if not in the top 4 so no point quoting their spending.

Massive game later

Am I going crazy or does the actual transfer window just not matter anymore? It's January 2nd and we're already supposedly finished our business for this month, all of which took place last month.

You're obviously new here, otherwise your own post is itself a contender in it's claims after just 33 hours. Toby posts stuff along those lines all the time. Calling it out is just foolish,especially when its not that far off the mark.

We're not going to have any midfield next summer with Ox and Keita leaving. Miller and Henderson one year older and frankly past it for a premier league team. We need one now and maybe 2 more in the summer.

Konate back tonight is brilliant. It allows the higher line to be played too.

I thought Keita might start tonight but looks like it's Elliot taking the 3rd spot with Fabinho back & Thiago.

Tsimikas starts, as does Ox.

Would love to see us try another loan for a midfielder, Melo was a curse.