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Saorview Connect

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭ItsHoggie


    Anybody know if this would work to get Saorview? I’ll be connecting it up to a Samsung TU7100

    Indoor TV Aerial, 50 Miles Digital HDTV Antenna Freeview 4K 1080P HD FM VHF UHF Window Aerial for Local Channels Support ALL Television-13ft Coax Cable https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S6MMTQC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_R4ETEEYGC1EQYPCZGCF2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    ItsHoggie wrote: »
    Anybody know if this would work to get Saorview? I’ll be connecting it up to a Samsung TU7100

    Indoor TV Aerial, 50 Miles Digital HDTV Antenna Freeview 4K 1080P HD FM VHF UHF Window Aerial for Local Channels Support ALL Television-13ft Coax Cable https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S6MMTQC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_R4ETEEYGC1EQYPCZGCF2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

    Follow the advice in post ##3302

    If you are in a strong signal area, you might get a good result with that, or even a simple aerial made from a coat hanger, but if not, get a decent contract aerial installed properly. You need to know the direction the signal is coming from which inside a property might not be good.

    If you have a satellite dish, a sat/uhf splitter at each end would allow the down cable to carry both signals. That is a very good result (assuming the UHF aerial is the right side of the building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭ItsHoggie


    Follow the advice in post ##3302

    If you are in a strong signal area, you might get a good result with that, or even a simple aerial made from a coat hanger, but if not, get a decent contract aerial installed properly. You need to know the direction the signal is coming from which inside a property might not be good.

    If you have a satellite dish, a sat/uhf splitter at each end would allow the down cable to carry both signals. That is a very good result (assuming the UHF aerial is the right side of the building.

    Sorry, I’m on mobile so don’t know how to look at a certain post.

    I checked my coverage and I’m in a area with fairly strong signal. So I just went ahead with one from Amazon, won’t use it much but it would be handy to have.

    Thanks for the help!


  • Registered Users Posts: 381 ✭✭Ballycommon Mast


    Why hasn't the price of these PowerPoint DXD7025VC boxes fallen? They are still nearly 200 quid

    Post edited by icdg on


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Ballycommon Mast, by convention on this website, all bold text posts are used by a moderator conducting moderation. Please do not do so again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Any reason why this service isn't being included on televisions yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin




  • Registered Users Posts: 381 ✭✭Ballycommon Mast


    RTE seem to have lost interest in the Saorview connect product. Could someone explain why do Saorview shy away from advertising the fact that one can get all the popular UK free to air channels with no monthly fees with a satellite dish and Saorview combi box? On that Saorview information channel thingy, there's no demo at all showing how to scan the box for the UK free to air channels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,463 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Do you seriously think Saorview should advertise the availability of UK fta channels?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,957 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    I can understand why they are not pushing it. The product is flawed due to the lack of a managed EPG for satellite. Install can be complex - not everyone will have both aerial and satellite connections to their TV. Plus some people may have had Sky Q, which I assume requires an LNB swap if it doesn't have legacy connections on it. Also people may naturally assume it has recording built-in.

    So, it's not a simple message for your typical consumer. Saorview are right to stop pushing it - they know the product is going nowhere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Reception of UK FTA satellite is a bit of a grey area. Strictly speaking we are not meant to watch it. We only get it by accident of geography. Users of Sky or cable, pay a fee to the UK for access. RTÉ can't be seen promoting a 'foreign' product and aren't going to promote competitors anyway. However, they needed to provide a satellite capable box for use with SaorSat. Oh dear, it also can be used for UK FTA . oops 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,161 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We're not meant to watch it when some channels have advertising specifically targeted at Ireland?

    There's nothing at all new about cross-border reception. In the heyday of radio most of the stations available for people to listen to, even in countries with several domestic channels to listen to unlike us, would have been from another country.

    What you're not allowed do is rebroadcast someone else's signal or put their copyrighted programme information into your EPG without permission.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Yes some channels even have dedicated RoI versions which is why I mentioned Sky and Cable.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It depends on the channel tbh - ITV, Channel 5, and to a lessor extent BBC certainly do rely on a claim of “overspill”, when it comes to their free to air satellite transmissions. (Cable is a different beast btw).

    Now “overspill” was originally meant for the situation where terrestrial transmissions obviously didn’t suddenly stop at a politically drawn line on a map, but I am not sure it was meant to cover satellite transmission to an entire country. But hey, as long as the rights holders are happy.

    The channels that target ROI advertising are mostly pay channels which have all their rights cleared for ROI. Ditto Channel 4 long ago sorted out it’s ROI rights to most of its programmes with certain exceptions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Just wondering about the Saorview Connect box

    With Satellite channels, can you add any free to air channels to the satellite channel list

    Example BBC Scotland 1

    Bbc Scotland

    All free to air news and music channels available on 28e

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    My Brother bought one of these boxes and he is funny enoght happy with it. But have rte thrown in the towel on it, There dosent seam to be any further updates or apps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    The app was removed a few months ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I see Saorview actually have a tender out to day for the Saorview help center



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Any word of a new Saorview Connect box coming out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭decor58


    Vestel have just announced a new 4k UHD stb, 97xx, with dvb, sat, 4k, wifi, given the number of branded Vestel products available here could it be a contender. The Vestel 97xx is due for release at the end of September.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭decor58


    A big plus would be if all 3 players could be got on one unit, RTE Player is widely available, TG4player appears on some units, VM player is on subscription services and Now stick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO




  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭tod1982


    Does anyone have issues with sateliite channels disappearing on combi box?

    Whenever I leave sateliite or turn off box the channels disappear and I have to tune them in again the next time.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Locoparentis


    Looking for some help. My mam had gotten rid of Sky years ago we have the aerial they installed still on the side of the house but she got rid of the box when it stopped playing the Freeview UK channels such as ITV and has been using the firestick with netflix and the like.

    I am trying to sort out an easy/straightforward way that she can watch RTE 1 live without having to signup for Eir, Sky, and all the rest. The whole Saorview thing has gone over my head. Basically, she has a decent 42-inch sony smart LCD TV about 6 years old would an aerial do the trick if it was plugged into the TV directly such as the one below, or do I need to buy something to go alongside this?

    We live in Dublin so was hoping it would pick up a signal but said I would ask before I buy one of the below.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    How good an indoor aerial works will depend on how good the Saorview signal is where you locate it, outdoor recommended.

    Try one from Argos, easy to return if it isn't satisfactory.

    Also, https://www.freetv.ie/indoor-tv-antenna/

    The outdoor aerial you refer to I assume is the old Sky dish?

    If so why not get a cheap Freesat satellite receiver for the UK channels, such as this and connect to the dish https://www.amazon.co.uk/Manhattan-SX-Freesat-HD-Box/dp/B07CD8GHFF/



  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭timothydec77



    That Aerial looks fairly Junky.

    There is no substitute for size and as the other poster has Said outdoors.



  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They don't advertise the availability of UK FTA content because they're not selling it and the reception of that content is at best a bit of a grey area.

    Sky and Virgin pay for BBC content, which runs no advertising itself - so the BBC gets paid for that and makes money. They don't make any money out of FTA overspill as it's just 'there' without any advertising to support it, so it's just really a case of it being more hassle to encrypt it than to just rely on the spot beams to keep it fairly UK centric.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭timothydec77


    The Astra Satellite only got the UkTerrestrial channels in 2000s.

    Before Digital Satellite there was limited Free to Air English channels.



  • Posts: 266 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It’s still just easier to see overspill. The signals aren’t intended for outside they UK. It’s just not annoying rights holders enough to warrant encryption, the cost of which is probably prohibitively expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    I picked up a Saorview Connect Box around 2/3 months ago.

    150 Euro

    I connected a 10 year old 500g USB for recording.

    I have found with the WiFi/Internet disabled the box works fine.

    With the internet enabled the box was likely to freeze or reboot.

    7 day EPG on Saorview channels is good.

    Recording is good

    However serial link on some Virgin media channels is not always available, so for Cornation Street on VM1 I set the record from the TV guide.

    Satellite channels with a Now and Next EPG

    Manual record on satellite channels is possible and timers can be set.

    Satellite channels are not organised in a very orderly fashion however you can edit move channels and hide, takes time.

    I leave the box in standbye power saving mode, it takes a minute or so to boot up.

    I foun is I set it to non power save mode for immediate standbye on, the box could reboot.

    So overall the demand and internet function is a disaster, however the box for Saorview recording is fine and it has passed the family test with the Internet disabled on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    No point then without the internet, most new TV's can do all you described above



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Just to add, it records one channel while watching another. My TV doesn't do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Good to see the Tech people must be back from Christmas holidays, Serial link back up and working on Virgin Media 1,2 and 3.

    Hopefully it lasts this time.

    Internet still a disaster on box causing box to freeze



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    I presume series link on Saorview still won't work on Freeview Pvr ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭Munster Magic


    Hi all,

    Apologies if this has been covered already but I am looking to source a Saorview box with a record function that will work without an internet connection.

    Does the Connect do this or do you need an internet connection to use the record function?

    Or would I be better going for a standard saorview box with an external record function (usb)?


    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    No internet connection is needed, just an aerial for the box to record/series link



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    You might need an internet connection on initial set up for a software update.

    When set up it works perfect for recording without an internet connection



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭Munster Magic


    Thanks for all the replies on this.

    They currently have a Walker Saorview Digital Receiver but are looking to upgrade to something with a record function.

    I have seen some Saorview boxes similar to the below which seem to offer the same as the Saorview Connect but am I missing something as the cheapest Connect seems to be around the €140 mark whereas the below is on sale for €55?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    The Revez box doesn't have a built in harddrive for recording. It needs an external harddrive judging by the specs online



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭Munster Magic


    Thanks @mackersdublin

    From what I can see though the Saorview Connect doesn't ahve an internal hard drive either and would still need an external hard drive (usb) to us the record function. Is this correct? The below are screenshots for the Connect box btw




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    True, forgot the Connect box isn't a proper PVR



  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭Banjo Carney




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Plenty of Saorview approved box's around with recording capability when you add a usb.

    I have a walker combo sitting in my press.

    Saorview Connect will record one channel while you watch another.

    Connect also offers serial link



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭Munster Magic


    Thanks @FRIENDO

    Do you know if the below box offers the function to record one channel while watching another?

    The series link would be handy but not sure if it would warrent the extra approx €100 cost if the below can still do the same (minus the series link)





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Sorry, I don't know Munster, but it's unlikely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Again judging by the specs online, it has a single tuner, meaning not being able to watch RTE One while recording RTE2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    This was your only other option, however I don't think they are sold anymore

    They are only Saorview (no satellite)

    https://redmondelectric.ie/products/saorview-approved-twin-tuner



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