What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Well, I would expect, then, that your response to that initial comment would to be question the assumption that Katarina Olejnikova and Frantisek Olejnik etc. are non-nationals, instead you appear to accept that they are non-nationals and decided to refer to CSO data instead, which is odd, considering your contention is that nationality rather than ethnic identity is the only valid consideration. Based on the contents of that article it is entirely unclear that any of those included are non-nationals, why then appeal to an alternative data source?

Why would I question who’s a non-national and who isn’t? I didn’t care, I was more interested in the use of the article to support the idea that what Ladlad referred to in their post was already happening here -

In this article on the first babies born in 2023, out of 7 of babies born, 4 were born to, what would be safe to assume, immigrant parents.

Rather than assuming anything about the people being referred to in the article, CSO data is obviously more objective than the selective data available in that article. It’s kinda important if one is going to make grandiose claims like suggesting that the indigenous population are outnumbered by immigrants.

I didn’t accept they were non-nationals, did you read my post? I said I didn’t care whether or not anyone in the article was or wasn’t a non-national. It was a terrible article to make a point about the NUMBERS of immigrants in relation to the indigenous population. I offered a more objective source.

That’s the second time you’ve told me you’d be interested in my definition of “immigrant”, or “immigrants” and now you’re just not telling me what your issue is. What’s your issue?

Are you genuinely confused or are you being obtuse? The CSO data refers to nationals and non-nationals, you rely on that data in order to demonstrate that births by “immigrants” are lower than those by their counterparts, is it then fair to assume that your definition of “immigrant” is synonymous with non-national?

It is relatively simple, the CSO data refers to nationals and non-nationals, you rely on that data in order to demonstrate that births by “immigrants”, this is the term you use, “immigrants”, are lower than those by non-immigrants, the question is, then, is it fair to assume that your definition of “immigrant” is synonymous with non-national? In other words, is it fair to say that you consider “immigrant” to refer only to non-nationals resident in Ireland?

I’m interested in the words you use and the way you use them, based on your previous comments, it appears that you consider an “immigrant” to be a non-national only, however, only you will be able to clarify this. I expect, as it is after all rather simple, you will provide clarification for us all - what then, is your definition of the word “immigrant”?

This brainless road to a multicultural utopia pushed by Roderick, the ngo's and the rest will do serious damage to the cultural fabric of the country in the medium to long term, the likes of him are being used by the business men and women coining it from the refugee/International protection industry... Think we are getting the brightest here? Not on your Nelly.. Just wait till these guys get involved in the lucrative drugs and prostitution trade and its already happening Mark my words, think the Kinahans an Hutches were bad just wait till these guys get a foothold, I've seen it before when I've lived elsewhere... and then all the wise owls in the media well insulated from the madness will be crying "how did we get here? " in opinion pieces in the Irish Times and the likes.. A cod of a country that never grew up with no respect for itself or its borders

If all the EU are in favour of it then why have the German government increased deportations tenfold since early last year? Why haven't we something similar here instead of a welcome matt out for all

So 55% to 60% of international protection applicants would be single male applicants? That's quite alarming since most people were expecting the vast majority to be Ukrainian women and children.

No. Ukrainians are refugees not international protection applicants.

I'm curious why they are still pushing ahead when it is becoming increasingly obvious to everyone that it is not working as was hoped.

The OP of the that other thread may be proved right in the end but not in the way they thought - the danger will be from the Right. The fringe hard Right.

All that is needed is for someone competent to take control of one of the lunatic fringe parties and our incompetent mainstream parties will push voters into their arms.

The immigration topic is bubbling under the surface and there is a lot of unease at the moment among people. If what I have seen over the Christmas is repeated elsewhere, it has very much become a dinner table conversation. And it is not a glowing, aren't we wonderful type of conversation either.