"Green" policies are destroying this country

I don't think you appreciate the level of industrialisation both farming and fishing have gone through over the lifetime of the Irish state (i.e. 1920s) and especially since the post world war II green revolution. Like every other industry mechanization, specialisation and automation have displaced a lot of manual labour that did menial tasks. Consider the number of people needed to milk cows. 1 person now does the work 10 people once did and without the risk of the cow kicking over the bucket. This is a massive productivity gain and is a principle reason that food takes up a lower percentages of peoples income today than in did back in the 1960s.

The price of food has risen recently mainly in line with fuel transport costs, disruption of supply lines due to Covid lockdowns has been a factor. A big issue that is slowly taking effect is the price and scarcity of fertiliser. The effect will be to take more marginal land and crops out of production, reducing consumer choice, increasing prices and reduced global food supply.

Yes, let's take schools. A two-teacher school needs to have 13 pupils to remain open (see relevant circulars from the Department of Education, I am using Appendix A of Circular 19/2022). That is a ratio of 1 teacher to 6.5 pupils.

A large urban school with 30 teachers needs 727 pupils, that is a ratio of 1 teacher to 24.33 pupils.

That remains unsustainable with the climate change problems facing the world. Living in villages and towns is the only solution. An immediate ban on one-off housing outside of designated villages and town centres is required.

There's absolutely no reason for the excessive car journey's to school's. There are 3 primary and 2 secondary schools in my area and the number of people who drive their kids to school is criminal. I cycle with mine every morning, except when it was too icy and then we just walked. Yet the amount of parents in the area who drive is nuts. I'm all for these types of proposals being honest.

Actually, they are not being based in rural living areas, they are being put into village and town centres, in places where the locals have refused to live. They are not being housed in one-off rural houses.

Hold up man, you want a "lesser carbon footprint" in non urban areas in order to create a better environment for our islands "climate", right? How is importing thousands of people from outside our environment and island with no limits on their number going to accomplish that when you also want rural areas defunct of a population, that in your own view, totally impacts the lesser carbon footprint climate damage scenario you also want to accomplish?

Where is the sense in this?

I was very clear as what I was talking about in the post you are supposedly replying too. But like any others who support this mad offshore "plan", (or indeed any question on assertions), when asked questions on, the reply is nothing other than "look over there" attempts rather than answers.

For such self appointed experts on any energy source that they do not approve off, the inability to answer even the most basic questions on their own favored "plan" does not say a lot for their self appointed levels of expertise.

You appeared to have a problem understanding how the marginal pricing policy operates in relation to the wholesale price of electricity I told you how it does, and your I-SEM since 2018 has not change that. Under the marginal pricing policy renewables have not reduced the wholesale price of electricity by a single cent, and never will in. As far as the price is concerned with renewables being paid the same as gas, the only components in the generation mix that lower the price is the level of the other fossil fuels used. .

We were actually discussing your apparent from your posts, expertise on nuclear which you oppose, and a few assertions that have not stood up in the real world, as well as like any others on this thread your total inability to answer the most basic of questions on a so called plan you are in favor off.

You appeared not to understand how the marginal pricing policy determines the wholesale price of electricity and I have explained it to you on a number of occasions now.Your 2018 I-SEM does not make a blind bit of difference as regards the wholesale price of electricity.

I have never claimed to be an expert on nuclear, but unlike some who seem to regard themselves as experts in all areas of electricity generation, I, like others here have posted verifiable data on a so called plan they favor which they have no answers too resulting in them either running for the hill or attempting to distract whenever questioned on.

If Eamon Ryan is worried about an oil supply shortage should he not be expediting the approval of the Barryroe pertroleum lease undertaking which he has been sitting on for the best part of two years now? After doing nothing for 18 months he fired out an ultimatum to come up with funding withing 3 weeks, and when BEY came up with that he has just gone incommunicado for another four months.