Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

Are you trying to be smart or do you generally struggle with basic comprehension?

This might come as a surprise to you, but those months when he wasn't picked that I highlighted just happened to come in the middle of the rugby season.

In any event, you're the one fixating on the time period, when I quite clearly stated the following in my last post directed at you which you've chosen to ignore:

He played no part in 6 pivotal games (Ulster at home, Connacht at home, Edinburgh away, Toulouse at home, Northampton away and then Leinster at home). Surely that isn't that hard to understand?

I'm struggling to understand exactly what it is you're arguing for here. Can you clarify - are you saying you think Healy made the decision he was leaving back in October, and that's why he wasn't picked in 6 games following that?

Because if that's not what you're saying, and you think the decision was made more recently, do you accept the premise that not being picked in 6 consecutive games would be a reason why a guy who's contract is up and who has an offer elsewhere would probably think he's better off leaving?

For whatever reason, you (and another) have chosen to interpret people pointing out that Healy didn't play any part in 6 meaningful games on the bounce as some sort of criticism of Munster, when I've clearly stated that isn't what I mean.

Surely that reinforces my argument that Munster clearly now see Healy as third choice at 10, and why he probably decided the time was right to move on?

He was finally picked in a match squad again when Joey Carbery was in a mandatory rest period because of his international obligations.

I've also never said anywhere in this thread that Rowntree "doesn't trust Ben" - just that he rates him behind Carbery & Crowley, which there is ample evidence to support.

Mother of god, the hoops some posters go through just to be right.

I really don't think you realise the irony of the above statement.

No, I don't, and don't accuse me of being disingenuous again when I'm the one who's had to tolerate some of the absolute nonsense non-arguments from other posters in here.

You can dress this up whatever way you (or others) choose to, and play semantics with the language around it however you like.

Fact is, at a crunch time in the Munster season Healy didn't play for 6 games / 2 months - categorise it however you like.

I'm not too concerned about what is universally accepted - from my view, the turning point in terms of performance and result was the Bulls win. It was the first game where they showed something this season, first game where the new coaches gameplan was evident, and was built on some great performances from both returning EI players (like Crowley & Ahern who provided impact from the bench), young players (Edogbo) and some of the more established players. To me, it was the game that signified the passing of the torch to Crowley.

Yeah, except I've made multiple well-reasoned arguments in this thread, and you've just refused to engage repeatedly.

But, for whatever reason, you can't just ignore it, you feel the need to tell everyone you've ignored it.

You haven't made a single valid point in this debate or even attempted to, and once again, for some reason you seem to suggest my pointing out the literal fact that Ben Healy wasn't selected to play for 6 consecutive meaningful games is me "twisting things to suit my agenda" or is me criticising Munster, when I'd say Stevie Wonder could see it's a major reason in why Healy has chosen to leave.

If you could take off your red coloured blinkers for maybe 30 seconds, you might notice that I've said numerous times that I think the reason he's leaving is that he has realised he's (rightly) fallen behind Jack Crowley, and is already behind Joey Carbery.

Pointing out this isn't a criticism of him, or Munster, or Graham Rowntree, but for whatever reason you're determined to see it that way.