Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Lol

That was a waste of key strokes.

Let me see you have alternative views on ukraine, would corruption and neo Nazi's be part of that, along with the CIA and Nato, putin was forced to do what he did ???

Whether you call it a 'coup', I call legitimate democratic process.

But what matters is that Russia, in clear violation of Budapest Agreement, threatened economic blockade and consequences to Ukraine if they signed the EU trade treaty.

Under this pressure, and perhaps other threats or inducements from Russia, Yanukovych did not sign the treaty, in clear violation of his democratic mandate and will of the Ukrainian people and parliament, and then brutally suppressed the protests. To state that half the population were pro-Russian is therefore completely false, unless you can somehow be pro-Russian and pro-EU at the same time!

The war started because the Ukrainian people refused to accept Russia's attempts to reduce it to a client state like Belarus, whether through corruption, economic war or outright war. With Yanukovych as the Lukashenko equivalent lapdog stooge.

You need to understand that there is quite a number of nations who already experienced the so called "Russkiy Mir" and 'freedom' that was forced on them, something they never asked for. Many of these countries/nations have the hatred towards russkis for about a century and it is a valid one, and this hatred only got stronger when nazi ruSSia attacked Ukraine. russians as a nation is scum, always were, and will be probably for another few generations. So when a poster comes and peddles the ruSSian propaganda bs to readers from countries that suffered from this before, of course reception will not be welcoming.

Yanukovych was Putin's puppet, he was voted for, but in a system that was heavily meddled with by Russia. When the extent of his corruption was exposed, the Ukrainian people had enough and marched against him. He used special police to murder protesters, police who, like Yanukovych, were whisked back to the motherland when things went south. He's wanted by multiple countries. He was wheeled out by the Russians during the invasion in order to lead their newly conquered territory, but had to do a U-turn when things their third Reich style invasion didn't go as planned.

Its very hard for anyone to defend the Russian position. In broad brush strokes they invaded another country and now millions are displaced and hundreds of thousands are dead or injured. Meanwhile Russian state laughs at the idea of Europe freezing without their Oil/Gas.

In this you have an aggressor and a defender, if you have been following this thread for months now we have had new members posting this "whataboutery" argument, basically saying the reason Ukrainian people are dying is because they won't let Russia take over their country.

I'm sure if someone wants to support Russia on this thread, they would be welcome, but they would need to come up with a strong argument and back it up with creditable sources. They probably would still get a rough time, that's because behind all this real people are dying, lives are being destroyed, the Russians are the reason.

If any Russian soldier wants out, they only need put up a white flag and walk East or get out of Russia before they get drafted. If any Russian soldier wants to stop raping men, women and children they can. Once in Ukraine they are fair game to be shot, and that is to be celebrated, how else can you beat the Russians back to Russia. Whats your solution ?

If you don't know maybe stick to something you do know,

So far you gave us iraq , Afghanistan, CIA,

And Wikipedia.

Seems you have no real interest in Ukraine or the current situation in ukraine for the last 9 months or the last 14 years even,

So your point is what.

Come in here make a post and Play the victim when you don't get the response you like

I've seen your posts here, you most certainly do. If not from the Kremlin directly, then via his useful idiots.

@deirdremf - They voted for Yanukovych because he promised to gravitate towards the west and when he was elected he betrayed them by going towards Russia. That is why they got rid of him. Traitor.

Charming. What a terrible situation to find youself in as a refugee; that you have effectively landed in a suburb of Russia.

Just a key decision-maker in Russia cheering on the brutal murder of a Russian prisoner by sledgehammer.

From the Guardian:

The first inmates recruited by the private military group Wagner have received their promised pardons after fighting for six months in Ukraine, Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin told journalists on Thursday.

“They worked off their contract. They worked with honour, with dignity. They were the first ones. Nobody else in this world works as hard as they did,” Prigozhin told Russian news agency RIA-Novosti, standing alongside a number.

Since last summer Prigozhin, known as “Putin’s chef” because his catering business hosted dinners attended by the Russian president, has recruited tens of thousands of prisoners to compensate for acute shortages of personnel on the battlefield.

In one leaked video, Prigozhin is seen visiting one of the prisons, telling inmates they would be freed if they served six months with his group.

According to Olga Romanova, the head of Jailed Russia, a prisoners’ rights NGO, around 40,000 convicts have so far been recruited from Russian prisons across the country to fight in Ukraine. She said many of them have perished fighting as part of Russia’s attempt to capture the Donbas city of Bakhmut.

Prigozhin’s practice of recruiting and pardoning prisoners has been described as “completely illegal and unconstitutional” by Romanova and other human rights workers.

There have also been reports of Wagner prisoners executed by their commanders for desertion.

In November, Prigozhin welcomed the brutal murder of Yevgeny Nuzhin, a convicted murderer recruited by Wagner who surrendered to Ukrainian forces but was later allegedly handed over to Russia.

Prigozhin issued a statement saying the clip showing Nizhin executed by a sledgehammer blow to the head should be called “a dog receives a dog’s death.”

Valid ur very special military op is -100k and counting now looking more foolish everyday.

Hiding when the news is bad probably drunk and spare underpants needed.

The sap appears today welcoming a frigate with a hypersonic missile if it works US/NATO will blow this tin can if it strikes.

Ur a busted flush a retreating invading army worse days are coming nukes are less and less ur saviour

The usual no peace talks until ukraine give up claims to occupied territories