Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Harry is articulate in the same vein as a politician, throw out stock phrases and buzz words without saying anything substantial - he's had a lifetime of training after all.

He's angry, bitter and hurting, we can all see why he has reason to feel that way, he's never dealt with his mother's death.

But, why the fcuk does he think we need to know he and his brother are circumcised, that he lost his virginity by 'mounting a horsey woman in a field at the back of a pub and she spanked his arse', that he had frostbite on his penis and that he apparently wants to play happy families while hanging them out to dry at every possible opportunity.

He's a millionaire in America, he needs to get himself into therapy and stay there, he's going to end up a laughing stock.

So you have a problem with understanding what he was saying; To summarise:

1. He loves his father and his brother.
2. He hates the British tabloid press (with reason)
3. He is making it his life's work to bring them down.

It’s quite clear that he is on a revenge mission against the family/ institution that he feels mistreated him. The lack of response infuriates him, obviously, which makes him angrier and angrier.

I believe his repeated calls for reconciliation (which he insists has to be initiated by his family) are down to two reasons. He is being stonewalled and can’t get a response out of them, and he desperately needs them to acknowledge him. His reconciliation offer is nothing but an attempt to assert power over the family, because he thinks that they will falter and give in to avoid him revealing more “details”.

I write this as someone who has done similar things, though not publicly (because nobody would have cared). Anyone who knows “the rage” can understand how difficult it is to turn it off again once it has started. It is addictive and hugely enjoyable when you are firmly in this mindset. And the problem is that he is way too many people encouraging him because they are benefitting from the situation, too.

He will keep going because is 100% convinced that his view reflects reality, and he will try to destroy relationships between other family members to make them suffer “like he did”.

Personally I find this both entertaining but also eye opening to a degree. His reasoning makes no sense to me and I can’t understand what he could possibly feel so hurt by. It’s quite impressive really, and I have zero interest in the royal family.

So he’s had a road to Damascus moment- his eyes have seen the light- he now knows what unconscious bias is and he wants the royal family to learn what he has learnt and repent for their racially related misdeeds or else they are conscious racists.

That’s essentially what he’s saying - the race angle is still there when it comes to Meaghan- no willingness to concede that just maybe, it’s her personality they don’t like, not her skin colour.

Best action for RF is ignore - you’ll never win if you try and take on this argument - I’m surprised Harry isn’t advocating handing over the family silver in retribution for profiteering from slavery 300 years ago- but there’s plenty of time for that yet.

I notice he’s picked a racial angle to build his fortune on- funny how it wasn’t a monetary inequality angle - a focus on the haves and have nots- nah, Harry likes his private jets and his millionaire mansions- there’s a limit even Harry won’t pass.

"Nothing I have said is scathing towards my family". He got quite annoyed at Bradby for saying he was "consistently scathing" towards Camilla throughout the book. The same book where he says his brother knocked him on his arse and gaslit him and his mother in law was a Crown craving scheming PR driven villain. He has lost touch with reality. Imagine someone like Maitlis or a Paxman interviewing him and having none of such BS deflection and not backing down so easily. The laughable part was him saying they never said anyone in his family were racist, that it was the press who said it, and he says that there was unconscious bias there instead. His point being that unless this unconscious bias was acknowledged then it becomes racism. He would be glad to help them about that. In the end, given that he has acknowledged drug taking, he seems to have settled into this permanent paranoid state of mind where every imagined slight is blown up and exaggerated. You could sense that bristling anger when Bradby used the scathing remark. The part where William confronts him after Phillips funeral struck me as someone engaging in an intervention of sorts and wanting him to get help.

Haha are you saying that he's on drugs now cos he said he tried coke and shrooms in his youth? 😂

The chap was let off quite lightly when you consider he was in possession of class A drugs. Interviewer should have been more firm here.

The charge against the royal family is 'unconscious bias.' That can be rectified very easily. I think Harry has said that the RF institution would hire a 'diversity czar' but they have not done that yet.

I think he probably has made his fortune now and the intention is to take on the British media in the courts with that. That terrifies the British tabloids because they know he isn't afraid of them and he won't be bought off. Some could well be put out of business by this as was the News of the World.

From what I know, Harry doesn't have a private jet, doesn't use a helicopter to go to work and only 1 mansion (presumably purchased because of the security it offers) and a relatively modest house in the UK owned by the his father on which he pays rent and would be also secure since its in the grounds of Windsor Castle.

His brother William, the future king, has five homes in the UK, uses a helicopter to get around in the middle of a cost of living crisis, all on the taxpayer who contributes about £100 million every year to their upkeep. At least Harry is paying for his own lifestyle.

Guys, he was composed, articulate and in control. But still saying nothing and still just telling silly immature anecdotes and tales. He needs to put this crusade of his to bed. It’s weird and unhealthy.

I completely disagree with him on his attitude towards Charles and Camilla’s marriage. It’s absolutely none of his business if they want to get married, nor should it be. How would Harry feel if Charles and William had used his own lines on his marriage to Meghan? “Do what you like with her, live with her, but don’t marry her”- he’d have rightly told them to eff off.

Harry clearly knows more about Charles and Camilla than I do, but I don’t need to know all the ins and outs to be clear that it should only ever be the decision of two adults in a couple to decide whether they get married or not. One of the first things they drum into you in therapy is that you’re not responsible for anyone else’s actions but your own, nor can you control anyone else.

How he doesn’t see the hypocrisy in his attitude to Charles and Camilla, I don’t know. It just makes me think yet again that he has only ever used therapists who give him an extremely easy ride and tell him what he wants to hear. But therapy isn’t meant to be comfortable.

Yes, of course it’s going to be difficult for Harry to like Camilla, given she was a constant presence in his parents’ ill-fated marriage. But C&C married 13 years after his divorce from Diana, and 8 years after her death. I have cousins who are estranged from our family because they can’t forgive their father, my uncle, for an affair he had 30 years ago. At some point you have to just get the hell over it.

edit And even if his suspicions are all completely true, that Camilla has plotted to be queen since the beginning, so what? She had nothing to do with his mother’s death. Who cares if she’s Queen Consort? Their problems are all so ridiculous.

Interesting thing about Camilla is that she was actually strongly disliked by the same right wing tabloids fifteen - twenty years ago and was often mocked and ridiculed by them. She (or perhaps the RF in general) has been clearly been working on her PR image to get into their good books - that accusation by Harry sounds credible enough.

Just out of interest what will Harry's and Megan's next move be after the book an these interviews are finished?

Another Netflix series about their daily lives/life after his tell all book?

Another book with more secrets from the past?

Well I can see Harry the movie next where the true story is told of the time William took Harrys sweets.

For me, at least the intense dislike (I wouldn't call it hatred) is simply down to her actions. If someone pokes their head above the parapet and speaks out on a valid issue then more power to them IMO. It's not that. It's her actions and her faux butter wouldn't melt attitude, she is the perpetual victim. Never is anything her fault.

Her lies are plain to see as is (what looks like to me anyway) narcissistic, manipulative behaviour. I've been on the other end of some "characters" like Markle and once you see that sort of lies and manipulation it becomes easier to recognize. Dealing with that sort of person is infuriating, I can only imagine what its like her making all her fantasy grievances public in the manner she does.