Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Is that not a red flag though, that someone so hated and vilified could have their image so manipulated by the media that she is now Queen Consort in a country that once hated her.

If you can do that to one member of the RF is it not conceivable that the same could be done to another but to negative effect.

The difference is though that Camilla didn't keep talking to the media - she quite rightly knew to stay quiet and let the palace team do their job. The media would have lost interest in Meg but truly she loves and wants the attention. They wanted to be away from the media but have now bought more media attention than ever on themselves.!! Megs seems happy enough with arrangement once the dollars are rolling in. They are happy courting and using the media. They are hypocrites

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In theory yes, absolutely it’s possible. And also, imho, there’s likely a hierarchy of priority within the RF organisation where the grey suits decide how to champion certain stories or activities that put certain RF members in good light, potentially at the expense of other RF members at that time.

But how it’s all decided, and what levels of effort are required or how orchestrated and deliberate it is, to put one person forward in a good light or indeed put one person forward in a bad light, I’ve no idea.

But unless the grey suits are a total law onto themselves and independent of the RF members, which I think is unlikely and plain strange, I don’t believe personally that there was a concerted effort within the RF to discredit Meaghan and put her in a bad light- the UK press were well capable of doing that on their own without the help of the RF or its press office.

BUT- with a lot of staff departing H&Ms office over a short period of time I truely believe that questions started to be asked about Meaghans behaviour- and I believe that is the crux of a lot of the stories that subsequently were published- and I feel Meaghan is protesting too much now, knowing full well she was responsible for a lot of sh1te going down in house in the palace.

I can understand why Harry may not like Camilla. Camilla is the woman his father has always loved, whatever love is. That must be deeply hurtful to realise given that the woman in question wasn't his mother. I think Harry like his uncle Andrew is his own worst enemy. Harry was once a very popular member of the royal family second only to the queen. It's quite a fall from grace. Like his uncle he is engaging in illogical behaviour. Hates the press yet courts publicity at every opportunity.

I can see his marriage to Meghan hitting the rocks. Yes meeting Meghan may have changed him but I wouldn't blame her for his fall from grace. I can see how the treatment of his wife by the British press would be disturbing for Harry especially given how Kate is projected the perfect stepford wife. But his best course of action would have been silence. Head off to America make money off being a Royal in subtle ways and keep his head down. His uncle gave him the perfect example of what not to do in the Emily Maitliss interview but Harry didn't heed the lesson. He is reaping what he sowed and will continue to do so as long as he continues on this course.

I've never denied that H&M don't do themselves any favours at times, regardless though it shows how easily the media and RF PR can manipulate public opinion.

No matter what media I read, I ask questions like, what's the source, who's the reporter, what's the media outlet known for etc etc In other words, I try and remain objective.

The UK rags like The Sun, The Mail etc have very obvious agendas - especially the Mail who I rate as the trolls of the Newspaper world- they can change view in a heartbeat when it suits them and know well how to stir up their readers, who in my view, are complete racists and conservative white English in the main.

While the Guardian might have 1-2 articles on Harry and Megan right now, the Mail will have like up to 10 on the one day- so you can see instantly they have an agenda and it's not anyway's positive towards the two. But if you know that, then you can read the articles and critically appraise them for yourself.

I've no doubt there are people out there who take what they read in the papers as gospel and are influenced by headlines and carefully constructed stories- I'm not, but it's a powerful force and you can see in America how there are whole media organisations devoted to either the Democrats or Republicans- I'm glad we don't have that to the same degree in Ireland. I feel though the UK are fast becoming similar to their US cousins- an appearance of objectivity but in reality hugely slanted towards particular agendas i.e. left/right wing, anti-immigrant etc, especially with the emergence of TV stations like GB News.

I guess a lot of the public gravitate towards what they want to hear too so it's not all the fault of the media- it's a ratings and paper sales war out there so it's in the interests of media outlets to tailor their writing and stories to the target markets that pay their bills and provide them with ample profits every year.

I just watched the interview.. OMG.. the poor lad.. I think he's quite unwell.. totally delusional and hypocritical, but not even sure he can see that.. maybe he's just blinded by anger etc... i know he had trauma but a lot of therapy too.. obv not the right kind..

I duuno... he's v messed up anyway.. if I was to feel anything for him it would be sympathy... but unfortunately there are consequences to his actions...

Actually no, I feel sorry for - his family.. not into the monarchy but they are people..

I just hope his Mum isn't witnessing all this from where ever she is..

Not sure there's any hope for him..

A media detox forever would do him good!

Harry and Meghan are just out to make money, on TV interviews and books. Also, just stating something on TV or writing something in a book doesn't mean it's actually true. It's there to make money, nothing else.

I think Harry is overdoing it as well. Admitting to drug use and living in the US on a visa is not the best choice, in worst case he could have his visa / residency revoked. Obviously he didn't think about that.

Also, speaking about his military service as he did, and with the Taliban still around and again in government in Afghanistan, he's also making himself a security risk and needs to look over his shoulder a little more often. I am sure, he didn't think about that one either.

Complaining about the Royal Family is a full time job for Meghan and Harry now - sadly its now their 'career'. They will continue as long as people are interested. Even after the marriage breaks up ( and it will) Meg will continue to make money out of this.

I do find it funny that there are some self-identified Irish Republicans on here, who are defending Harry, an ex-member of the Crown forces who killed 25 'Taliban' in a far-off land.

Meghan seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth recently..

She's about 6 feet under and her eyes have long since decomposed so no need to worry.