You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the right.

Try to really think instead of just falling into neatly pre-made partisan patterns.

@Igotadose I have seen you repeat talking points from the media word for word on this thread.

Just like communist regimes of the past are retroactively being reimagined as socialist utopias.

Next we'll be told the Gulags never existed and were made up by someone in a MAGA hat to discredit the left.

@Tell me how 'The communist regimes you are referring to, I imagine, were hijacked by dictators acting in their own interests. That is a weakness of the ideology that it leaves itself open to this happening (George Orwell may have written about this)'

In the book within a book written by Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984 - which is a parody of Trotsky's The Revolution Betrayed - Orwell satirically implies that the main Communist revolutionaries of the past, or even all revolutionaries, are self-interested fakes and frauds.

Lol.

"Communist regimes only went bad when they were hijacked by dictators"

You just jumped the shark.

Funny how the Soviet Union found itself being hijacked by dictator after dictator.

Maybe the communist dogma was the real problem? No couldn't be, communism is a perfect ideology that only has one flaw, its uncanny ability to lead to mass death and misery and that's all the fault of the far right somehow.

Why should anyone entertain your assertion about the how "the dangers are coming from the right"?

The worst thing about this bizarre ideology of yours is that there's a plethora of people lining up to agree with it.

Trotsky from day one was a psychopathic mass murderer, Putin has a long way to go before he scratches the surface of people like Lenin or Trotsky and co. inflicted on people.

Stalin was not the Bolshevik Revolution being twisted, he was it's natural conclusion.

The ideology is a large part of the problem but the people who it appeals to are a bigger one.

Countries where Irish Immigrants mainly went over the years were UK,USA,Canada,Australia and New Zealand all of whom shared the same language as ourselves and all of whom have similar cultural background.i.e Christian and European.

Irish people consciously adapted, they dropped their use of the Irish language fairly quickly for example.Also emigration to underpopulated countries in the 19th century is wholly different to emigration today.Most countries all over the world are over-populated and that should be the main reason controls on immigration should be implemented all over the world.

Historical events?

Oh yes I forgot that community North Korea is actually a fascist state according to you.

Same goes for Communist China, another far right regime according to you.

You can post as many 1000 word post as you like, it makes no difference to the complete nonsense what you're saying actually is.

You're unwilling to listen to anything that doesn't suit you, so everything you don't like is explaind away in some preposterously nonchalant fashion.

You have no interest in listening to reason and make the most pathetic attempts to prop up your position, usually by making outlandish claims that have no basis in fact but everyone should disregard anything that counters your position that only "the right" is a source of problems in the world today.

Come to think of it, the central conceit of this thread is that people are "looking in he wrong direction" is ludicrous.

Nobody, myself included is in countering the OP's assertion by saying that the opposite of what they're proposing (that all the danger in the world is coming from the left and not the right) is the actual reality of the situation.

All I've done here is draw attention to the fact that danger exists in the world that originates in left wing ideology and even that act of proposing a more balanced idea is to the OP anathema.

To even suggest that there is some danger posed by left wing regimes like China or North Korea is too difficult for the OP to even contemplate acknowledging and they persist with pushing their beliefs as the truth.

Their beliefs are their truth, I and others opposing the OP aren't interested in truth we're interested in fact. That's the difference and its a glaring one.

JAQing off (Just Asking Questions) is a trope of the Fox News types at this stage. You are trying to make a wild accusation that the FBI and CIA were behind the January 6th riots acceptable by framing it as a question rather than a statement. Hiding this statement behind a "just asking questions" does not absolve you giving of the evidence to back this up either. You might be able to get the people over at https://www.boards.ie/categories/conspiracy-theories to help you there.

It's not a Fascist regime, it's Communist and proudly so.

It's a Maoist Communist State, like every Communist State that ever was or ever will be it's a murderous hell hole of poverty.

Up to the 90s you had radical Left in Ireland going visiting there. People spoke of the Soviet Union as an example, Cuba was a paradise, as always when the reality started to show, the line became that people like Stalin subverted the revolution, the totalitarian leader meme.

As if people like Trotsky and Lenin aren't up there with the most murderous leaders of the 20th C.

There are not 2 sides, there are one and both must be closely watched.

Fascism and it's older, rougher brother Communism both only offer death and degradation.

People find it distasteful that only one of the farleft/far right family should be looked because so many on the left have never cleaned house of the psychotic views, values and people of many on the Left.

As the left becomes increasingly middle class, it is once again becoming more ideological,aloof and insane. That has always led to problems.

So the challenge for much of the radical left is to prove to people that they have changed, that there are now differences between them and the far right, differences in how people would be under them.

What baffles many people about this thread is that many of the people on it going on about the far right are not the type of people any would want in power, the type that always lead such societies to its inevitable conclusion and suddenly we have to pretend that they are concerned for Society.

A plague on their joint House.

Totalitarianism isn't exclusively right wing.

That's where you're getting confused.

You talk about Irish immigrants “up until relatively recently” and in subsequent posts back up your claims by mentioning those coming off coffin ships 170 years ago!

Were Irish immigrants “dependent” for a prolonged period of time? No.

Relatively recent Irish immigrants mainly went to Britain and America in the 1950s, 1980s. They were not so culturally different. Democracies, majority Christian, English speaking, rule of law etc and overwhelmingly spoke the same language.

There were more questions asked of immigrants arriving in Ellis Island from 1913 than are asked of arrivals in this country today.

This idea that one simply arrived in the US and went on ones merry way is incorrect.

You implied it. Or at least appeared to.

Can you acknowledge the historical and contemporary problems posed by the far left?

If you want to get snotty I can go into greater depth here.

You said "@tellmeabit is right, its a socialist economy but a fascist regime with a totalarian leader", this was in reference to a post made by the OP (Incidentally they are called Tellmehow and not "tellmeabit") in which they stated that North Korea was in fact not a communist nation but a fascist one.

Your statement that North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un is a totalarian and your suggestion that this was evidence that he and by extension North Korea as a whole could be nothing other than fascist/right wing is implying that totalitarianism is inherently right wing.

I'm not sure you're thinking yor posts through very well because to the reader the is an implication that totalarianism is inherently right wing by virtue of how you structured your post.

Maybe take a bit more care in future and perhaps leave the snarky stuff out as well.

Thanks for the detailed reply. However hard you try to frame it, I never stated or even hinted that totalitarianism is exclusively right wing. Stalin was a totalitarian. So was Pol Pot. No matter how many "suggested" or "implying" or "appeared" or "structured" or "implication" any other vague descriptions you want to make to associate me with that view are made up in your head.

Id be grateful to get another verbose reply off ya telling me why you are right though.

I read it and didn’t get your conclusion at all.

@SafeSurfer you mentioned a number of Deportation orders issued,now compare the deportation orders issued over the last 30 years or so and see how many have actually been deported,