Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Danno, of course it costs money to get here. But the idea that asylum seekers typically have enough money to pay for western health care out their own pocket when they arrive is of course completely bonkers.

As to why it's not being stopped - it can't be stopped unless a nation is prepared to be spectacularly cruel to people in desperate need.

Yes!

We must maintain our liberal society by excluding all people whose views do not perfectly align with ours.

Look I'm no expert on either country, but I wouldn't judge an individual on the basis of the laws of the country they are trying to escape from.

You're again saying something incredibly racist. That these individuals are fundamentally incompatible with us and our society.

It's a load of bollocks. Perhaps you don't consider yourself to be far right, but in every post in this thread you've said something racist.

I have zero problem with people from Algeria or Somalia coming to live in Ireland. Except of course that they would have to integrate and live alongside people like you who think they are fundamentally incompatible with us.

It's just a really **** horrible point of view that you insist on sharing again and again

I'm going to say something REALLY politically incorrect there. But hey if others can be incorrect so can I. I'm sorry but it needs to be said.

You can't put a group of refugees in affluent areas. This is what the general public fails to understand.

Affluent areas do not have state schools or govt buildings to put them. They have private schools. They don't have community centres. They don't have social workers. They don't have doctors that take medical cards. Rich people don't USE this stuff.

Guess where the infrastructure for those things IS??? Less affluent areas.

Guess whose taxes pay for those services in those less affluent areas? People in Dalkey etc etc.

Do you think there are many social workers in Dalkey?? Many state schools?

It's a politically incorrect thing to say. But it's the truth.

One refugee needs like 3 social workers. Little D4 darling goes to three private therapists. I'm not judging either party. But I'm just telling you the truth.

Neither half knows how the other half lives.

And by the way people who use the argument against refugees in their area...that is EXACTLY the same argument people in affluent areas use against having social housing in their area for people from housing estates etc. People from council estates cause more crime etc etc we won't be safe. Bleh bleh. (im not saying it's right but im saying i hear it)

'You are fashioning the rods for your own backs.' Is a saying that comes to mind.

No one thinks the people of Fox Rock are LESS racist. Don't be silly. But you really think Fox Rock has govt facilities to deal with it? How many state schools does dalkey have? Lots of local aldis around where people with not much money can shop???

How could a refugee afford to live in Fox Rock even with provided accommodation?? I couldn't afford that!

Islam does plenty of integration.

... just in the opposite direction.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Do I think a lot of things are unfair in the city ? Yes without question.

Do I think people in Fox Rock have any idea of what Ballymun as a community has been through in the last 10 yrs? No. Not even the most enlightened leftist perhaps they even know the least.

The whole idea of putting social housing into private areas was to STOP these types of imbalances. But then you get people objecting because the council is building 250k apartments in the same building where there are 650k apartments etc. Because why should yer man get a free apartment bleh bleh. And it's like dude work it out.

Then you get people who live in council houses now convinced they are MAGA. And are going to protest the refugees along with the National Party. A party that wants to get rid of ALL state socialism. You can't be a far right conservative and live in a council house. If you keep going down that path you will end up homeless!

And you get the person saying OH i can't get this because refugees are taking up all our resources ..well you could say that about ANYONE ...the homeless take up all our resources etc etc the state schools take up all our resources people on the dole take up all our resources the pensioners take up all our resources it never ends if you go down that route.

We all take up air.

I agree just like people and media who imply they are all vulnerable

When will the more affluent areas of Dublin be helping and providing residential facilities for these lot ?

Have a look at Sweden, is the lack of integration due to racist white people or maybe the fact that there are certain cultures that have no desire to integrate beyond working arrangements/some minor social interactions and have no interest in the fantasy 'everybody becomes western liberals' multicultural dream.

Nah, as with everything is the racist white right wing fascists that are at fault for the lack of integration.

That has got to be the most misinformed post I have ever read on here and I have read a lot.

Protests are only going to get bigger as more people realise what is going on.

These are young males being thrown into unsuitable accommodation, no job prospects and barely any English.

Then you factor in they are from countries with backwards thoughts towards women.

Then you factor in the crime levels they have in other countries and especially sexual assaults towards women.

Then you factor in they are turning up with no documentation which makes it highly likely they are hiding something and more likely a criminal.

We have seen what has happened in other countries and should be able to be proactive.

But we will wait until innocent people are harmed before anyone starts talking about the subject.

A right wing irish party is a certainty and the people voting for them will want an end to this madness they are not lunatics.

We are dumping groups of men with backward views towards women into towns.

I can totally understand why any normal Joe soap would want to protest against it.

What I can't understand is the people who are defending this policy, I would like to know why they are in favor of this.

Here is the thing people in Morocco speak 4 languages usually at least french spanish standardarabic darija and amazigh...they also learn english in school.

The idea that Algeria / Morocco etc are homogenous countries is a false one. They have berbers arabs Sahrawis and Europeans left from colonialism mostly of spanish parentage etc

Same with Nigeria Nigeria has like 400 hundred languages. There are like ..300 ethnic groups in nigeria. Yoruba igbo etc ! so many more.

Half of Nigeria is christian and half is muslim roughly.

These people are ALREADY multicultural.

But they are living generally under repressive govts. You know like the putin chap.

Algeria and Somalia aren't the same as Morocco though - Morocco has been a centre of trade for centuries. I was just stating that sometimes it not always the far right bogeyman at fault for the lack of integration. If you want to blame the host county, blame the terrible government policies of dumping hundreds of males into areas with nothing to do as this is clearly more of an issue.