Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

But 90% of the stuff he has been discussing has nothing even to do with Meghan. His relationship with his father and his brother, his relationship with Camilla, how he handled (or didn't handle) the death of his mother, Afghanistan, drugs etc. The idea that Meghan came along and 'changed' him is compete and utter BS....he was clearly a maverick from day one and not playing by the rules by the RF. It was more that he was pretending to go along with it all pre-Meghan but we now know that a lot of it was lies and spin by the UK media. He was never that close to William (or Kate) for example, a very different type of person.

“My memory is my memory…and there is just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it than in so called objective facts. Things like chronology and cause and effect are just fables we tell ourselves about the past”

Translation: This is my truth, and my truth is just as valid as THE truth, despite your actual facts.

"They have become what they thought they were fighting against."

100%

It's amazing how well you know some people you have never met.

It's a reasonable surmise based on what's in the public space and body language.

Anyhow, chinless Harry was harmless if ludicrous playing the role of a finger wagging millionaire spox for billionaires telling us to pay more tax for Green stuff they invest in, and other fake work like those terrible podcasts, but this book is a narcissistic exercise in humiliation, which will endanger the men and women he once served alongside. Honestly the 25 Taliban probably lost the will to live after hearing all the nu-male histrionics. The 25 Talebs claim itself is doubtful and a bit sick too.

Well, since it was put out there in the press that Meghan had made Kate cry and Kate didn't refute it, she had every right to publish what really happened. And I would bet that is a very accurate text because Meghan would have the original text. The fact that Kate must have told everyone that Meghan had made her and Charlotte cry could only have come from Kate herself and passed onto the press.

Ah man , bride on her wedding week.

As I commented a few pages back, William needs to break communication with Harry now. Defo don't be on your own with him. He's a loose and dangerous cannon to the RF.

I listen to James O'Brien and he is very sharp and hard to pin down. But I think because he's had therapy as Harry has had, JOB can't find no fault with H&M.

Personally I think the therapy in Harry's case has banjaxed him. He's turned into a nasty, mean person who won't take accountability for some of the stuff he has done.

She made Kate cry in a direct meeting day before this text exchange in the presence of other mums. During Ophrah's interview she said that it was Kate, who made her cry. It is obvious backpedaling now.

No, it’s just that there are more questions than answers, and some folks (before making a call) would prefer to have all the details and all the truth.

You do know that the alleged victim agreed an out of court settlement?

anyway, this thread is Harry and Meghan.

I watched the whole Harry interview, and he still comes across as a very decent person, which is why I think the way he has been conducting himself the past few years is just bizarre. Maybe he really feels he needs to try tarnish William and Charles for whatever hostility he harbours.

I thought the interviewer was very firm, but fair. Not like that absolute sham, Oprah

Most folks are still just scratching their heads asking, what’s wrong, Harry?

He has been trained all his life to come off as a decent person in interviews. He is surely a master of it.

Why would anyone compare? Two different people who are in the news for completely separate issues.

For a lot of people, Harry is showing awful behaviour in revealing personal and private family moments. His sustained attacks on his own flesh and blood could well be considered disgraceful behaviour. So, he’s not at all some shining light compared to Andrew.

people don’t need to compare. They can assess both individually and make a call.

I would say the death of his mother and him blaming the tabloids for it was a 'far' more significant event in his life than meeting Meghan. That is the thing that changed him. Meghan is just a convenient scapegoat for the right wing rags and their lowlife opinion writers to blame : "he was absolutely fine until she came along". He wasn't fine at all and was clearly already struggling with his mental health long before this.

No, you said comparing them is rotten.

Nobody needs to compare. Apples and oranges.

Both can be judged separately on their lives and behaviours, and a call can be made on what one thinks of them, separately.

Your post said “comparing them is rotten.”

I never said “you” compared them. I said that comparing them was silly. Both can be judged separately without any need to compare.