Andor [Disney+]

The more time goes by the higher up Rogue one goes in my rating to the point where its possibly my favorite star wars movie now.

Andor has only added to that and if they get season 2 right (where it goes right up to Rogue one and stops) this could be the best combined non cartoon star wars material yet.

At the core is the grey areas of goodies and baddies that was always missing from the main Star Wars lore along with characters with fleshed out motives and actions. Not just "kill rebels/jedi cause empire" , "Kill storm troopers or sith cause bad".

Luthen Reel is an absolutely superb character, as a "villainous goody" as one can have, with clear motives and a tragically clear understanding of what hes sacrifice for the cause. Also has one of the best monologues in the entire star wars universe explaining what he is sacrificing in his goals.

Dedra Meero and syril Karn are fantastic driven civil servant type empire employees. Again, in some ways showing how many bought into the empire concept of order and just focusing on defeating the foe. No real independent thinking or self reflection outside of their goals.

Ando is actually as adult a star wars story that I think has been made and it didnt need to be R rated. Just a really well made series , with fleshed out characters, no over reliance on special effects and some of the finest material in the star wars universe in my view.

I have enjoyed alot of the star wars stuff for what it is, but Ando stands out as something quite different. Its nearly a completely different kind of programme that nearly doesn't feel at home in the star wars universe for good reasons.

Star wars = popcorn in every sense of the word . Andor = top quality drama/action/adventure

I think the big difference is that when the PM was released there was absolutely nothing remotely comparable at the time. SW was everything with regards to this sort of material. Also, Marvel has carved out the perfect ingredients to groom the right audience to watch whatever sh*t they put together, so SW really isn't as mainstream as it might of been in the 90s. It also probably has a more loyal support, which can work both ways, particuarly when what fans want "not my luke" is not what they get.

Marvel and even DC (to a much lessor degree so far) have somewhat changed the landscape of these sort of events. I was at a midnight viewing of TFA, but I was at the midnight viewing of Marvel movies aswell. I remember the excitement for TFA but wouldn't class it as significant as the 90s.

I was in USA just after the TPM was released in 1999 and it was insane at the time. There was no marvel or Dc or comparable movie within years before or after that even came close to the hype. The reason the box office maybe not as impressive as it could of been is because there was a lot of disappointment and poorer word of mouth. Jar Jar Binks probably cost then an extra 300 million alone !

Austin Powers had a Star Wars like trailer around the time. Lucas was fine with it, but apparantly it was seen as marketing genius (attaching anything to TPM) . Imagine that , a movie trailer recomending you goto see an entirely different, popular movie and then see their movie aswell maybe!