Andor [Disney+]

Perhaps Andor was slow paced, but the quality of the acting and the cinematography was top notch.

I was around at the time, remember it well. I still don't think anyone was expecting high cinema. Just a good ScFi Romp in the Star Wars universe.

The problem is too often they rely on trotting out the old fan favourites and not bothering to write a meaningful story to set them in. They released Solo too soon after the audience had the battering that was Rise of Skywalker and The Last Jedi.

I don't remember much talk down through the years about Solo's backstory. It didn't seem a burning question fans were mad to know the answer to.

Seemed more like an attempt to cash in on the "origin story" craze that the superhero movies were doing.

I think it wasn't a story anyone was looking for. As you say no one wanted a Solo movie without ford. But I don't think its a bad movie in itself. I missed in the cinema and got it on BR. But didn't watch it months after getting it. I do rewatch it. Whereas I've never been able to rewatch 'The Rise of Skywalker'.

That's literally all it was, an effort to create a "Marvelised" type of Star Wars franchise, where a million mediocre "origin" movies could be spurted out. But, yeah, absolutely no one was asking for a Han Solo origin movie. It's now destined to be the weird red headed bastard of the Star Wars family. A mild curiosity at best.

It's kinda a shame, though, because if you eliminated Solo, Chewie and Calrissian and all of that baggage, they could have made an interesting heist story set in the Star Wars universe involving Woody and his gang. I'd get rid of that 4 armed monkey thing from Brooklyn as well. Or at least, reduce him to subtitles and an alien language.

In it's defence it didn't really degrade those characters in the same way the prequels and Skywalker have done. At least imo.

I think it was decent. Though I didn't really warm to the guy playing solo, but I thought it worked well enough. The whole life under the empire was interesting especially as ground pounder and of course we've seen even more of this Andor.

It was the ONLY Star Wars movie I didn't see in the cinema..... And they released the 2 Ewok movies in the cinema here in the 80s

Haven't seen the ewok movies. I see them on Disney but have no desire to watch them.

Cut out the space battle and the rest is fine. I always turn it off as soon as the Death Star kills the 2 lads. That's the real ending and the rest is pointless CGI memberberry fondling.

The space battle in Rogue One is one of the best things about the movie. 😕

Hammerhead Corvette. Makes no sense but brilliant all the same.

Classic old school space battle. Enough to make me want to dig out XWing vs Tie Fighter.

100% I like taking time. Something to get your teeth into

While it does have that "let's stick Darth Vader in here" feel, I didn't find Vader's scenes out of place and in fact, I really like the ending. It shows why people feared Vader and why he was a force to be reckoned with.

It's been second only to Empire since I first saw it. I was so, so, surprised at how great the film was when I saw in the cinema and each time I sit down to it since, that greatness hasn't faded.

it certainly has its issues, of course. The overplaying of CGI Tarken and that bizarre and completely unnecessary cameo from CGI Leia being the most uncomfortable. But, over all, it's an excellent Star Wars movies that's leagues ahead of either the prequels or the sequels, which I don't think I'll ever put myself through again, I consider them that bad. But 'Rogue One' was easily the most "Star Warsy" of Disney's Star Wars movies, the rest being wannabe also rans in that regard.

And I agree completely, 'Andor' has expanded the universe in more ways than the entire six movies of the prequels and sequels combined. It, along with 'Rogue One', should be considered the bench marks that all other future Disney Star Wars productions should try to attain.

As to Scarsgard's character, he's a refreshing extension of what Cassian Andor brought to Star Wars, in that he's on the "good" side, but not above doing the bad thing. In fact, all the Rebel characters in 'Andor' have grown up from the silly, twee, representations that we've grown accustomed to and I'd say not before time too.

Star Wars needed to grow up to continue, AFAIC.

APPARENTLY She was gonna say "Fight the Empire. Fight the Empire. F*CK the Empire"

Great scene...

The highlight was the guy nonchalantly booting the Stormtrooper off the tower, some kick he had on him.

I rewatched the final episode last night, it was outstanding.

that was great. the whole sequence with the marching band and the music to the brilliant speech leading to the riot was great tv.

All those scenes brought Northern Ireland to mind and the stiffling expereince of trying to live under an occupying force. (saying that as someone with no experience of that but it came to mind)

Andor was top notch tv. Actors sets dialogue everything, it was all done so well. That jail while being the brightest cleanest prison I've ever seen on Tv was also the most depressing.

Loved it all