Bus curtailments in Tallaght

Halloween comes early

I rang Tallaght Garda station one night in need of a Garda and was told there was only one car and it was dealing with a road traffic incident, and it had somewhere else to go after that before it could come to me. This is in Tallaght - with a population of 80,000 people.

I assume the 54A is included in this but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere

Why isn't the 175 affected that takes a similar routing to the DB routes diverted. Do GAI not want to not notify customers they are diverted or do GAI disregard the health and safety of its drivers and passengers.

I live about a 1000 yards from the garda station as the crow flies.

Regularly while I sit in traffic with my fellow commuters I witness lads on scramblers/quad bikes tearing through red lights, down the wrong side of the old bawn road.

All a couple of hundred yards from the station, not a guard to be seen. But drive the n81 and you regularly see traffic stops 20 squad cars deep across both sides of the road.

They've plenty of guards to do the work they want them to do.

In before the usual "hApPeNs In EvErY CiTy" nonsense. No it does not. Place is an absolute kip.

What parents? In Jobstown, 60% of families are single parent families. 50% male unempoyment etc. Its a toilet.

The DB curtailments are driver action, not company action. I've no idea if GAI drivers are taking the same action. Don't fool yourself into thinking DB are doing the honorable thing here and the other company isn't.

I am a resident of the Jobstown area and a regular user of the 27 bus.

In the last few weeks the level of incidents on the bus has skyrocketed, from theft, yelling and disorderly conduct.

All of this was caused by a group of teenagers of about 8 people between the ages of 14-20. They were always the same.

It was something that was seen coming, nothing ever happens to them, sometimes the driver stopped the bus and called the garda, but little else.

It is a pity that for such a small group we have to affect all the neighbors. But I fully support the drivers, there should be 0 tolerance to anti-social behavior.

I also believe that the problem is not solved by enforcing the law only, you have to make initiatives in the community.

For example.

If there are young people who like to race motorcycles, encourage local competitions and the creation of racing teams.

If there are young people who like to fight, make boxing competitions.

In jobstown there is a giant jobstown park, why not make local events for young people?

Although I don't justify it, many of those teenagers don't do evil because they want to be criminals, it's because they don't know any other way to focus their energy and fun. Sometimes the family environment doesn't help either.

I think that the solution to these problems is a work between the city council, local associations and neighbors in the area.

GAI drivers should be doing the same after all GAI drivers are represented by SIPTU and NBRU same as DB.

So many acronyms in this thread , after 12 years in Australia I really feel like I’m living in a different country to the one I left, what the hell is GAI???

Jesus Christ, who are the NBRU & GAI, I know who’s siptu is, but a google search doesn’t find me about others

There's no places to legally ride motorcycles and NIMBYS won't allow it. There's is/was a lot of waste ground around the affected areas and none of the lads on scramblers every went near it to race. They rather doing wheelies up the middle of the road.

I know of several combat clubs in the area and they are willing to accept anyone. These people don't want to train they want to intimidate people

See what happened to the bike rental stations they installed, broke within a few hours. We can't have nice stuff until we sort out the scumbags

Dismissing them as "scumbags" won't "sort out the scumbags". Bored kids mostly, the majority of whom will grow out of it.

Go away now. Its always someone elses fault.

There are as much facilities and outlets in Tallaght than Maynooth, athlone, galway or waterford. These are just scrotes with scrote parents being scumbags.

Its always the same argument with the bleeding hearts. Look to blame everyone else apart from the little scumbags themselves.

So has Dublin bus split into 3 separate organisations?

I know,

it's a complex issue, the question is how to end the problem . it's something that takes time .

It is also true that the law should be stricter with minors.

Unfortunately when the little scumbags don’t have a deterrent… criminal justice system / Garda resources to meet them head on this is what happens.

roughly 80,000 people live in Tallaght. There is one single Garda station in Tallaght, for 80,000 people

I’ve a friend who has lived in Millbrook Lawns for aeons…they won’t walk to the shops any more. Get a lift to and back from Tallaght shopping center, at least lots of people around. That’s not due to fear, paranoia, it’s directly to do with what is going on in that area. Millbrook was always a settled avenue with nice families, yet she was threatened by scumbags on the flyover on the way to the shopping center, Gardai didn’t want to know, the reviews of the station on google, 2/5. She was left for over 30 minutes waiting to talk to someone there, looks not to be unusual. According to google someone wanted to get passport form signed and waited 50 minutes….

if a station can’t staff up to get someone to put ink to paper and look at a photo without waiting 50 minutes how can they be trusted with actioning timely responses to criminality and victims of crime , being a deterrent and protecting the public ?

a legacy of political dipsticks burying their heads up their…

what will happens with the metro ? Drivers just say ‘no’ to working those routes ? So no buses ? No metro ? No taxis ?

scumbags 10 - 0 civilised society…..

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Their parents are probably on social welfare all their lives that we the tax payer are paying for.

It's far from only West Tallaght and it's all modes.

Green Party types asking people to use public transport. What person with the comfort of a car would use public transport in Dublin?

No one and they shouldn't. It's not worth it.

100% correct. They don't want to race on a track or to fight someone who is willing and regularly training. They want to cause mayhem.

My cousin is from Brookfield and runs a kickboxing gym. The biggest hard lads on the estate turn up for one class and don't come back. The quieter ones who have a lot of trauma often turn out to be the most dedicated.

Never forget when a bloke I know was on his own outside Level 4 after closing and three blokes started on him. He fought them off and was literally fighting them across the road and he managed to back himself into the garda station. Said to the guards what was happening and they said if they attack you again when you leave, just ring us!

Fortunestown Shopping Centre.

In all my years getting the 56a I've never seen trouble with a bus there but I'm not surprised to hear of it. Anytime I pass that bus stop on the same side as the shopping centre it's littered with cans, bottles etc so obviously a place where people gather...

I'm surprised they haven't moved the bus stops to the new road that goes behind the shops.

The way you say things, it looks that you've never lived abroad, or at least visited for more than a few months. Ireland is really degrading. The scums of our society is left alone without any discipline or responsibilities, there is no use of them, they just create a trash and crimes. This is a severe problem which happened due to laziness and a lack of responsibility. They see parents living like scumbags and themselves becoming the ones. No use to the society of such degradation. Some of them should be locked in a cell, parents should be taught social life and respect to the tax payers, and the ones on a longer than a 12 months' period for the job seeker's benefits should do a mandatory community work: clean streets especially. It's disgusting how filthy our streets and people are.