Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Klopp also need to look at himself too. Too many of our players are picking up muscle injuries both in training and in games. We're an outlier from the rest of the teams. He needs to re-evaluate his training regime so players pick up less injuries and are actually available to play.

Last season in 17 games we had 117 shots on target, with 48 goals

This season in 17 games we have 108 shots on target, with 34 goals ( 9 in one game)

It points to bad finishing, being wasteful, we should have 6 more points on the board at least

Home to Leeds, should have been 8-2, we lost 1-2

Away to Everton, should have been 0-4, we drew 0-0

Away to United, should have got a draw at least, we had great chances, lost 2-1

Tbf there's only so much you can do to prevent injuries when the team already had aging players and played 60 matches last year, imo preventing those players from getting injured should have involved signing backup players to allow them more rest and recovery throughout this season.

Only some of these constant injuries are in the older players.

Thiago, Jota, Diaz (albeit more serious), Nunez, Ketia etc didn't have issues before or are young enough.

Only Matip has always had a problem.

I think and hope they are asking questions behind the scenes.

This is the equivalent of Salah, Bobby, Mane, Orgi and Taki all being out innured at the same time in previous seasons.

For tomorrow, surly we shouldn't play play the same formation with just Cody and Salah fit.

That's not really a valid excuse tho imo as it is Klopp's squad that he let get to this state. Sure if he just arrived a few months ago that would be an absolutely valid excuse but it's all on him. Talking about the likes of Keita and Ox like they are important members of the squad is a bit delusional really. (And no I'm not calling Klopp delusional. He has to talk them up cos he has to use them now but he obviously knows himself they are a waste of squad spaces)

P.s. Brighton will probably beat us handily tomorrow. I'm thinking 3-2 after we go 1 down, then 2 down then fight back to 2-1 only to concede sloppily again and fight back again to 3-2 in another showing of too little too late...something like that

3 to Brentford

3 to Brighton

Take that 6 out of it and we'd be level with City for goals conceded. Not saying there isn't a problem in defense, but a lot of it is self inflicted

Yup

Doomed 😂

Who are you and what have you done with "yourdeadwright"!!!??

Seriously tho you are normally the one saying what I'm about to say which that we should have been strengthening from a position of power, not waiting until we see the massive need for a certain position to be refreshed. It wouldn't have taken us "spending like city" to buy someone like Douglas Luiz last summer, who only had a year left in his contract at that point, and perhaps someone like Zakaria last Jan who according to wikipedia went to Juve for £4.5mill as he only had 6 months left on his contract and he is someone I had been advocating for us to sign for years and looks very tidy so far for Chelsea.

We could've gotten the 2 of them in for less than £50mill or thereabouts I reckon and we would be easily inside the top 4 right now and would probably be in a title race right now in all honesty. I know real life isn't like Champ manager where you can just get any player you want all the time but just after about 2 minutes research I've found that solutions were available and I'm sure there were plenty more options. I know we have this ethos of waiting for the right player to become available or we don't sign anyone but sometimes "the right player" can be a medium term or short term signing. For example if/when we miss out on top 4 this season I believe it will become apparent that "the right player" last summer was simply one that would have helped us maintain our top 4 status while we rebuild as the rebuild itself becomes more difficult without top 4. Not every player we sign has to be a Virgil or Allison type who completely transforms our fortunes.

If we didn't learn that lesson in 2021 with the defensive injury crisis then we will never learn it under this regime unfortunately. And I'm not bashing FSG here, and I hope they stay many more years as we could do a hell of alot worse, but that is just the reality with them I feel.

The odd one though, is spending on Gakpo and ignoring midfield. We need more than just Bellingham, we probably need 3 new midfielders by the start of next season. As many injuries as we have up front, imo midfield was/is a greater need.

I mean, I can't see it myself, but I love reading it 😋

Never forget how he dealt with Ibrahimovic 😉

Sure but that entire argument falls down if we don't then sign Bellingham this summer. If we don't sign Bellingham then we would have been better off signing someone last summer.

CL qualification is crucial to us and spending 50 or 100 mill on a midfielder or 2, like the ones I mentioned to help secure that would have paid for itself. Plus then you would be left with 2 really good assets on the books which you could then sell on for profit even. Klopp seems to have it in his head that every signing he makes is gonna end their career with us when this is not the case. So what if we are then left with 1 player too many during those magical few weeks of the season when we are completely injury free...you can then sell a player too if you end up with 1 too many.

Sure the end target is the title but I feel CL qualification is our every season target and some signings can help us with the second target, like the Kabak signing, while we wait for the others...especially when missing that second target gets us further away from our prime target.

Yeah, but there are a zillion midfielders out there who aren't the most high profile players in the world. Enzo, Caicedo, MacAllister, all these guys are amongst the highest profile around now, and all were available for significantly less 6 months ago. We know the club were actively looking at Enzo and Matheus Nunes before the season started, so are we really to believe there isn't a young energetic midfielder out there who could do a job that isn't already a household name? Even amongst the higher profile guys, Morocco's Ounahi is looking like moving to Leeds for 25m after an outstanding WC.

I don't have any problem with getting Gakpo, but if it was a decision between Gakpo or a midfielder, then i think they made the wrong call. Ideally we'd have filled both positions, but the extent of the midfield problems puts that as top season-defining priority for me.

We missed the boat with Jude I feel, but Jordan Bellingham at 18 might be a good long term buy. Who knows, he might even persuade big brother to come aboard too.

Are you going to a game?Be aware that there is no access to the tunnel area etc for a day or so prior to champions league fixtures, hopefully we will be still in it.

I'd be in favour of changing the formation for today's game, given the personnel missing up front.

But I think we'll see Ox start in a front 3 again, maybe even centrally.

I know it is the logical thing to want, but I still can't bring myself to admit we're out of it, and want Arsenal and City to win. We're not even halfway through the season (I mean, I know you're right, I just accept it)

So dull draws and red cards in the two derbies please

Wonder how long before we concede the first today

Jesus, an optimist. I was thinking 3. Probably less.

Squeaky bum time

Brighton at nearly 2/1 represents great value today I think. Wouldn’t personally make that bet myself as a Liverpool supporter, but those odds are clearly too long.