Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

Would it be fair to say you prefer comic universes to be dark, gritty and disturbing? Because that's been DCs specialty and look where that's got them.

No, i dont even know how you came to that conclusion with what i posted, as stated in my post phase 1-3 were great. Phase 4 has been sh!t.

Phase 1-3 focusing on providing entertainment and bringing the comic books to life

Phase 4 entertainment takes a back seat and we box check diversity castings and make it the main marketing focus and then call anybody racist/biggot/incel that doesnt like the crap put out.. 🙄

No i just call it like i see's it, i can name loads of movies/shows with "Strong female leads" that are actually just good, or countless movies/shows that dont include a white male lead.

And yeah they made she-hulk soo bad so they could troll people that didnt like it, that is soooo amazing 🙄

"I'd say there were far more situations where Marvel had the opportunity to actually touch on these topics more but disappointedly shied away from tackling them." - Shied away from what exactly? do you mean do more of exactly what im saying has dragged phase 4 into the mud? haha why would you want them to do that? Should the only real goal be to entertain their fans? 🤯

The problem I had with Shang-Chi was that he was BY FAR the least interesting character in the movie. I mean this isn't an unusual phenomenon but in this, it was startling. I mean, OK, you are not gonna compete with Tony Leung, that's a given. The man is fantastic. And THEN you had Michelle Yeoh. 'nuff said there too! But he was outshone by pretty much everyone. His character was pleasant enough but he was just so bland. I mean I even liked his friend. I know she grated a bit but she was pretty funny. I know she's huge but that was the first time I'd seen her in anything and I thought she was fun. You could tell that she was a comedian as opposed to someone simply given funny lines.

And then the obligatory CGI-fest at the end.

I agree that the last phase seemed to be mostly filler. I know it's all building up to a multiverse thingie with the next phase so it's not ACTUAL filler but it certainly felt like it.

I actually enjoyed Falcon. Thought it was interesting and a good path forward to the next Captain America movie. Like most, I thought the pontificating at the end was heavy-handed but I did enjoy the savage undercutting from Bucky immediately after :D.

I enjoyed Hawkeye for the bit of fun it was. Excellent comic timing on Seinfield. It was just some good build-up-to-Christmas fun.

Wandavision started strong. Especially during the timing shifts. Thought that was clever. But thought it lost focus at the end.

I found Loki a strange one. It just.... It just didn't gel with me for some reason. Nothing I could put my finger on. I just think maybe it's enough with Loki.

Miss Marvel, I haven't finished. I'll give it a go again but I think I was burnt out by then

She-Hulk. It was OK..... I thought the chemistry between her and Daredevil was GREAT and they were a couple of fun episodes but I got just a bit tired of the CONSTANT 4th wall breaking (Even before the suoer-meta end)

Moon Knight did nothing for me

As for the movies:

Dr Strange also did nothing for me. I thought it was better than the first but I thought the first was Marvel's weakest movie. You know something is bad when a 5-min cameo-fest is all anyone remembers.

Eternals was oh so very pretty but, again, oh so very bland but this time they were ALL bland.

Thor was poor. I love Waititi's stuff. Wilderpeople is one of my favourite movies and I loved what he did with Thor in Ragnarok. Thought that was great. But it's the ago-old story of sometimes you have to reign a director in and focus them.

Black Widow almost looked like a TV movie and would have bombed HARD had it been released in the cinema. BUT!!!!!! It did bring Florence Pugh into the MCU which almost totally redeems it

Black Panther 2. Quite enjoyed it. Enjoyed the first one a LOT (Apart from the CGI-end of course). Angela Basset was amazing (Hey, it's Angela Basset. What would you expect). It was good but just couldn't live up to the first.

As it was mentioned above, Spiderman. I loved that. I know it's whatever with the MCU but I REALLY enjoyed it.

Regarding the next Phase. I know nothing about Kang other than I keep thinking of Krang from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. But then I knew nothing about Thanos either. I did not grow up with ANY of the comics. My only early brush with Marvel was The Incredible Hulk on TV. And I still have no knowledge of the comics.

But.... I don't know. This whole multiverse thing just seems like a REAL handy way to expand the MCU too-easily. To go the DC route and basically shoehorn as many new characters in as possible to movies as fast as possible. And to bring back characters that shouldn't be. It other words, I think the whole multiverse is a total cash grab. One could say that about all the phases but this seems more overt

I enjoyed phase 4. Some real variety and risks, and while not everything paid off (Eternals), wat least you can't accuse it of being one note. Dr Strange was a great change in tone, Spider-man maybe the best comic book movie in years, and Black Panther 2 had real heart. The biggest dud was Thor, which was also the most "MCU" of the movies.

And the TV stuff really expanded and enriched the universe. Can't say I watched all the shows, but Wandavision, Loki and FATW were way more interesting than a lot of the past movies.

Phase 4 was always going to be a bit of a balls. You've lost the big hitters and the main thing the MCU was building towards, then the Disney+ shows were going to take wildly different styles to utilise the longer-form storytelling, and there was a definite element of over-saturation.

After that, some things just didn't work. Thor, Eternals and Black Widow were all mostly duds. Some of the shows had great moments and episodes but a lot of filler too. And I think Phase 3 brought the MCU-hype levels so high that Phase 4 was just always going to disappoint.

I would hope that with Quantumania now properly setting up Kang as the looming threat, beginning to see a payoff for things set up in Phase 4, and lessons learnt from Phase 4 in that quality is better than quantity (particularly when it comes to the D+ shows and then theyre integration to the movies), I'm still hopeful for the coming Phases.

I did think they could have done more with the legal side of things and they dumbed it down too much (not expecting realism, but it just felt pointless half the time because there was little logic to it), and the show was probably an episode or two too long, but overall I enjoyed She-Hulk. It ended up being a lot of fun and had a great lead.

Ford is around 10 years older than William Hurt was and looks even older but I’m not overly bothered as casting Ford is like casting Glenn Close - they just want to throw in a big name to boost a movie. Hopefully Ford gets to do more than just collect the paycheck.

I’d be more interested in Mark Hamill joining the MCU.

I’ve seen the current line up for the Thunderbolts movie and it is very disappointing - 3 super soldiers? That is very unimaginative. There is a ton of unused characters/abilities to chose from - I don’t understand why they are not using them.

One of the worst movies I have ever seen.

I'm a super Marvel fan 😢