An Post returning packages from outside the EU-See 1st post

Meantime they're sticking this flyer in our postboxes

"Use your AddressPal account to shop US and UK sites that don't deliver to Ireland".

And pay VAT twice. Reverse of flyer says " Pay customs at the click of a button". No mention of VAT

I'll bet they don't send those packets back. Fwiw, even pre brexit, some UK suppliers would not deliver here, or to AnPost forwarding address.

You're missing the point. The goods are delivered to a local address, UK or US, so the supplier has to add VAT or US sales tax. Remember, AnPost has no function in this part of the transaction, you order the goods in your name with a UK address. You can't order it VAT free as it's not for export. ( and this is a supplier who won't deliver abroad, possibly licensing reasons).

Anpost then import it to Ireland where it attracts Irish VAT and possible customs charges. If the supplier wanted to sell for export he could remove Vat, and send it to directly, whereupon you jusr pay Irish Vat, but only if AnPost don't return it. They don't have any issue delivering it when it's them who's carting it over though.

The ad is misleading, it makes no reference to Vat, and pretends its a customs charge

If they are willing to export, and do the paperwork, you can bypass Addresspal and bring it in yourself. The point of Addresspal is to buy from a business who only deliver locally, in the UK, requiring only a name, address and a few stamps. No complicated customs forms on the packet. If you can get the Invoice printed to a non UK address, good luck with getting a UK Vat refund from HMR, as the goods were delivered to the UK. Nothing you or AnPost can do to change this, unless Anpost sets up a Uk vat registered company and orders the goods for you, then exports them to you and does all the UK vat work. I don't think so.

An Post blaming the Brits

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2022/12/13/an-post-row-with-uk-post-office-causing-return-of-online-purchases/

And blame all returns on sender, not on failures of their automated rejection process. Unseen by a human, the packet and the evidence in your favour is returned. You can't query it, see what the system scanned, or look at the data, packet has already gone into the abyss of returns.

It will cost you 20% extra plus Addresspal fees. Retailer can't remove UK vat, but you'll have to pay 23% Irish VAT on the entire transaction including initial delivery . Say you buy a watch for €240 equivalent in euro, of which 40 is UK VAT. Add €10 for UK delivery. Irish vat 23% on this total, add another €57.50. €6.50 addresspal, €3.50 customs fee, total, €317.50 for a watch that cost €200 before tax, and that's assuming it doesn't attract a customs or excise charge.

The final insult announced today, Parcel Motel closing down. Effing Tories and their Brexit really made a sh¡t of the European free market, compounded by ridiculous bureaucracy on simple personal post. For a few years we finally had choice, competition and freedom from cozy cartels and it was too good to be true.

Sounds good for NI collect, but if you contract them to forward it south they will have to apply 23% vat and any duties before they hand it over, otherwise its smuggling! It why parcel motel closed, they could no longer forward goods, posted to their NI address, to the South without all the paperwork, tax and duties.

Jumping the gun more like, hoping to get the medal or a business award. I didn't know there was a category for 'Sh¡tting on your Customers'.

It sucks. A business critical commercial service operated by an agent who has no obligation whatsoever to be accountable for errors and failures in the system, and no liability for these failures to the paying clients it serves, the sender and receiver. The last and only organisation that had this coded into it's mission statement was the Church. " The Pope is infallible, that is, he cannot err." Who remembers being taught that gem? "The (an) Post is infallible, it must be your fault".

I was looking for replacement generic gps car antenna, best price and delivery from a small operator on Amazon.uk, I just couldn't risk it. I looked at Amazon.de, good prices, all marked ' eligible for delivery to ROI' but when put in the basket they all said the same, 'Can't be delivered to this address etc..'. Probably resellers of Chinese goods, they've obviously decided to avoid Ireland. One actual shop would deliver, but huge markup plus an extra €12 for delivery for an item thats a tenner with free delivery in DE.

If you were in Germany I think. It was confusing anyway, I couldn't get the stuff into the basket to see what delivery charge to ROI would be. I think it's similar to how some suppliers on amazon.co.uk are actually in China, but have some kind of forwarding or bulk delivery into UK or Sweden or Holland. I notice now on a lot of these on co.uk that free delivery is only on goods over €22, it's consistent regardless of the supplier. The supplier who was selling them for €10 and reasonable delivery cost was on Ebay, not Amazon, my error, so I'd fully expect that packet to make its way back. Anyway, ten euro and €3.75 delivery from Germany is good, it's already dispatched from who knows where, but I'd expect it to be treated as inside the EU with no messing about.

Is that UK only or ROI

That's UK sorted, maybe, and too late, but what about the F* up of the rest of the world deliveries to here?

Go to McdDonalds for a coffee and a free read. You'll see all the old guys there reading. If you Google it it's probably in another paper in full.

Tis far from McDonald's I was reared! 🤪

they haven't rolled back on anything. the post office in the UK have changed how they work so that parcels to Ireland now have the correct customs information on them.

Thousands of people had packets returned which had ten digit codes in them. Now they'll delivery (subject to payment) packets with NO code? Read the quote again.

'While packages without the 10-digit code required from ‘third countries’ such as the UK were previously returned to sender, recipients will now have to pay customs fees when they accept delivery of items'

Probably better to wha......? Are you having a laff ? A small to medium business in a far off land,clearly writes a label meeting their own Postal service's requirements...with CRYSTAL CLEAR description of the contents,hell if the same Irish Postal/Customs Official bothered their ass to open the damn package,they'd immediately confirm the presence of a MOTORCYCLE SCREEN....as described on the shaggin label ! Has Pfizers jab rotted ther brains from within or wha? Is this State so flush with talent that it's paying Civil Servants to practice nonsensical codology before applying for any further promotion ??..."Convince the seller to follow correct procedure when sending " ???? Is this Mr An Post.....? ..NO !...Let An Fruxxking POST do the convincing ! 😡 !!