Tesla Model Y

@Gumbo how can you buy "right" unless you have connections to buy at trade prices? Every car I have purchased albeit ICE has lost money, and I always bought used. If I could do this I absolutely would. Any guidance you can provide would be a big help to funding my first new car(MYLR)

I'm amateur in Tesla world. Are you saying no 360 camera in MY.

I was about to cancel Volvo c40 and lose 1000 euro deposit.to go for Model Y long range. Both cost 55k now.

Lack of 360 camera and sensors will be a deal breaker.

Seriously folks, please read the thread. The old suspension was like the one in the Model 3. Fine for a sporty saloon like that but harsh for a family crossover like a Model Y

But this suspension has been completely replaced for the Model Y, for all models worldwide, with the "comfort suspension"

All our cars will get this, but the only car currently in the country with it is on UK plates in Sandyford. You can book a test drive for it. I'm going to drive it myself today

Try give them a call. In the past, you just rocked up and had a look at the car, sat in it and chat with the sales guys. Like in any other car dealers. But since COVID that has been a bit hit and miss with lots of "touchless" stuff going on, like when you bring your car in for a service, you leave your key in a box and pick the key for the loaner car out of the box, all based on pin codes and stuff.

Even today's test drive is supposed to be touchless and you had to submit your driving license online and "sign" the online contract for the test drive. Before COVID this was done on paper in Sandyford

Use this for some real world values : https://ev-database.org

When you are test driving can you check if the Rear windows are double glazed. I see conflicting views on the web.

It’ll be interesting to see how often Tesla get these cheaper cars into Ireland this year, which will be crucial for those of us wanting the 2nd hand values to correct.

tesla effectively only delivered cars to Ireland twice in 2022, once mid Feb for Feb/Mar delivery and once again at the very end of Aug for Aug/Sept.

So its main competitor is the VW ID.4

It is now €3k more expensive on the road in the cheapest possible version

And it has significantly less range, less performance, slower charging, less spec, less warranty and no supercharging network to use. Never mind the struggles with the software that is very far behind the Tesla user interface and OTA updates

Don't get me wrong, I like the ID.4, I like its looks, I like it's around, I want to see VW do well from the electrification revolution. But that's a tall order now.

The Ioniq 5 - even better looking than the ID.4 - in base trim and small battery used to be significantly cheaper than this, but that has mostly eroded now, its availability is poor and it suffers from the same less range, less performance, no supercharging and less spec compared to the Tesla

There are no other competitors with a substantial size family hatch / crossover in this price range, (sub €50k on the road) are there?

Yes agreed this will bump the percentage of BEV sold at the loss of all other cars. And I don't think people realise it, but this has also shaved a chunk off the value of any second hand car over a certain value, petrol, diesel, hybrid, PHEV or BEV

That said, plenty of people stubbornly don't want to know about BEVs and are still going ahead with buying brand new diesels, PHEV, what have you. They will pretty much ALL have a very painful depreciation experience.