Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

[It] is simply untrue [that] - the successful and well supported [protests] - are genuine grassroots phenomena.

So it's the bit after that I'd like to see - where you present reasons for your statement based on actual events in Ballymun

It's to hear those kind of evidence based arguments that I made the effort of posting on this thread. I'm confident you'll deliver.

I won’t be going to East Wall or Ballymun. Because to do so would make me a hypocrite. I live a long way away. I never supported those communities before, so to do so now would not be right.

One thing that I do believe is that as One Eyed Jack said, stereotypes exist. If we look beyond the stereotype, whether that be a howarya from Ballymun, a refugee, a Ukrainian, they are people. And people are, when you get to know them, generally decent.

I was at my kid’s school play before Christmas and about 20 Ukrainian children in the school sang a Ukrainian Carol. It was the first time I had considered these 20 children spending their first Christmas away from home, in a strange land, with a war going on back home.

The local soccer coach is from west Africa, a really good man, who the kids love.

Once those children were just “Ukrainians”, the coach was just a “refugee” but when you get to know them they are just people, with worries and fears and hopes, the same as Mary from Ballymun or Tom from East Wall or You or me.

No, you are missing the point. It’s not that it took this community 30 years to stop a halting site being built. They stopped it FOR 30 years and then the authorities were forced to give up!

OK, never mind.

You say the protests haven't been successful. How would you define success?

I don't think any protestor went out with the aim of exonerating themselves in the eyes of some bigots.

I would define success in terms of the mainstreaming of the protestors ideas. And the wins keep coming.

Here's someone voicing our ideas who managed to get heard this week.

We need more appropriate and robust border controls.

It's important that asylum seekers should get “a decision in the negative” as quickly as possible.

There needs to be a determination to tighten up on people entering the country illegally. If people want to come here for economic reasons it's important that they follow the rules - it's not fair on other people if anyone's tried to get around those rules.

Here's another voice for the "Far Right"

The notion that Ireland is, or could become, a soft touch for uncontrolled economic migrancy posing as asylum seeking is a potent political weapon. Developed countries find it immensely difficult to deal with the volume of asylum-seeking arrivals in a manner and time frame that is both fair and effective. It is that inability which creates an opening for economic migrancy posing as asylum-seeking and for international trafficking of economic migrants.

Despite the terms of the Dublin III rules, would-be applicants for asylum in Ireland find little difficulty in transiting through the EU to seek asylum in Ireland.

40% of asylum seekers at Dublin Airport appear to have lost or destroyed their travel/identity documents between boarding a flight for Dublin and presenting at immigration control.

The number of genuine asylum-seekers from Georgia must be tiny. Destroying travel documents is designed to make the Irish international protection legal process longer and less effective.

International protection applications must be processed far more quickly. Destruction of air travel/identity documents must become a negative for applicants. Judicial review should be simplified and take a different form, perhaps, in lower-level summary immigration courts.

Recognise these Far Right extremists?

The first is Leo, last week

The second is Michael McDowell, last month.

The NP aren't a serious electoral force, nor, for the moment, are the Freedom Party. But the entryism of ideas? Continues apace.