Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

All the protests are doing is making a bit of a show of some working class communities (what community wants to be associated with a bunch of Neanderthal bigots shouting slogans outside a refugee centre?). That's why we're seeing pushback in all of these communities against the actual protestors and people publicly stating they want nothing to do with them.

The population of Ballymun is 22,000. There were perhaps 200 people at that protest the other evening.

Given how slow and reluctant Irish people are to protest about anything it's not an insignificant number from a local community.

Same goes for the East Wall.

I'm surprised at the number of protests around the country and there is obviously a lot of frustration there.

The issues about school places, housing and healthcare are very real and they are widespread. Lots of tut tutting from the good people of Ireland, the comfortable pensioners, the 'nice people ' .

Throwing dozens of kids with no English into a local school doesn't raise standards at that school, it lowers them. The single biggest education metric is student :teacher ratio.

It does take away places from other kids. Many of us have had to deal with this reality. NO SCHOOL PLACES for your kid. Taxpayer? Irish citizens? TOUGH LUCK.

Then WTF am I paying taxes up to 50% for?

Same for healthcare/GP access. When you add patients to the roster others drop off.

They drop off!

GP will offer you an appointment two weeks later. Hopefully you are alive then.

Same for housing. Its limited. When somebody gets housing others dont get it. They dont get it! Simple as that.

One can be isolated from that if you live on Dublin southside where these are less refugee centres and send your kids to Terenure college or the local Gaelscoil and your brother in law is a doctor.

I'm not blaming genuine refugees on this. I blame the govenrment for not implementing policies which will lessen impact on citizens. For instance why can Ukranians in Ireland not run their own schools and medical centers in some towns?

They have the numbers, skills and people to do this.

You have said that there was awareness that violence would be counterproductive.

How does chanting "get them out" fit in though. You were "get them out" at people who live there. Many people (including me) have described this as agressive and intimidating.

What do you think though?

That's incorrect. They are placing them in hotels and empty buildings in all areas. But the chances are the 3 star hotels are not located in premium residential areas. It's primarily working class areas that these far right agitators are targeting as they know they are less well eduacated and more liklely to believe the guff they are spreading.

There are quite a few Ukranians in Rathgar. Some are in BnB's there and some are in people's houses. I would say Rathgar is a rather opulent area. Similarly there are some in accommodation in Ballsbridge. Another opulent area. ButFar Right agitators would not be give one second of someone's time in these "upper class" areas as most people there are well educated and donlt take their news feed from tiktok.

Most Ukranians are being housed outside Dublin, Cork, Galway, Limerick & Waterford city areas - most "Irish" people in emergency accommodation are in Dublin (over 70%)

example - Eastern region - Adults in emergency accommodation - Dublin 5,356, Kildare 179, Meath 197, Wicklow 45.

The entire county of Roscommon has 8 adults in emergency accommodation.

When Children (those under 18) are included, Dublin is 7795.

So the "homeless issue is very much a Dublin issue. The entire county of cork is under 700 people.

Then lets look at the "look after our own" racist/xenophobic argument. 39% of those on the "homeless" list are not Irish. 22% are UK/EU and 17% are non-EU.

And if you cross reference it with the census, 18% are from the Traveller community who make up an extraordinary large number of the Dublin figures.

So if a representative sample of the "homeless" were put into the ESB building at east wall (300 people), 56 would be travellers, 66 would be UK/EU, 53 would be from outside the EU and 125 would be "White(washed) Irish".

Shows the stupidity of the argument the far right are using.

they're certainly smart enough not to stand outside places where emigrants are being housed shouting out out out. smart enough to know this is bottom of the barrel neanderthal behaviour that you do not want to be associated with whether you have a problem with housing emigrants or not.

1.2million Irish born people live abroad, 560,000 are in Britain and in London, up to the 90's it was the largest non-uk group taking up social housing and is still in the top 5.

So if its not Irish gov's responsibility, then quid pro quo, any Irish person living abroad in subsidised/state accommodation should be sent packing? - That in effect is your argument. You can't have it both ways.

I'd add too that there seems to be a lot of crossover between these groups and the anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine, climate change denial, anti-woke, conspiracy theorists (the "New World Order" and the "Great Replacement") etc people.

It would be wrong to label them all far right though. There seems to be a fair few "left wing Irish republicans" among their number.

Good point, although a good number of those people actually built Britain, stafffed the hospitals and factories etc. Not a small contribution.

Would you have a link for that? I tried looking it up, but I could only find figures for ethnicity, not nationality. White Irish is listed as an enthnicity, as is Black African & Black Carribbean. One is very specific, the other is very broad. If it was broken down by nationality, there would be a lot of countries that would fall under the latter, pushing Ireland down a lot. Even looking at the breakdown of ethnicity, “white Irish” isn’t in the top 5.

I would also imagine having Nationalists from the North who would describe themselves as White Irish would skew things somewhat.

Just interested to see the figures if you have them, thanks.