Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

must be a record for ranting by someone's first day of joining boards.ie, post after post of it

None of the above is actually fact, nor is it based upon anything even closely resembling reality. Your proposed solution to repair a system which in your opinion is broken, is to tear it asunder completely, and then let nobody anywhere near it unless you’ve had a chance to inspect their previous work first and they’re prepared to act in accordance with your authority.

That’s how you’d make policy, which would shape the economy in the way you imagine it should be done, which is where the UK are now with Brexit. It’s too early to tell if the UK will survive, but the prognosis currently is grim.

Is it not true that in an increasingly global health worker market, to remain competitive, Ireland needs to pay its healthcare workers more?

No, because that would make our economy anti-competitive in a global context. There are numerous reasons why people decide to emigrate, and the primary reason is that they wish to make a better future for themselves than they foresee in their home country. Paying nurses more would mean having to pay all nurses more, it would increase the cost of providing the services to the public. It’s a great idea of course if you want nurses who have trained in Ireland to stay, but the fact that our Government can source cheap labour abroad means they don’t have to. The same is true of nurses coming from other countries - they too have the same aspirations given the health systems in their countries aren’t in any better shape than Ireland’s healthcare system.

I do agree with you that it’s exploitative and cynical, and from the States point of view- we’re getting great value for money, but then from a personal point of view, I’m also looking at what little I pay in income taxes and the fact that my private health insurance for myself and my family is provided for by my employer, and we’re all in good health, so there’s that… 🤔

There’s little point indulging your nonsense rhetoric, so I won’t bother. Instead what I’ll do, is address the part which makes any sense -

And more to the point, people are experiencing first hand the results of your 20 year old economic disaster and guess how they're liking it?

It'll bear out sooner rather than later.

People are loving it, because they’re benefiting greatly from it, and those people who aren’t, well if you hadn’t noticed, historically speaking they have little power to actually do anything about the people who are benefiting the most from the current economic system.

This is why it’s perplexing to me that anyone would call you right-wing when your ideas are clearly of a socialist bent, where you imagine the countries wealth should be distributed equally or some shìt, because that’s the only way you have a hope of benefiting from it. You sure as hell don’t have any ideas about generating wealth that could actually legitimately change the current economic model to something more in line with your way of thinking. It appears you think wealth is generated out of thin air - the SF approach to economics.

I think what we are seeing now is a consequence of the media and politics generally running to shout "racism" or "you can't be saying that" any time any community had a concern (often legitimate) about migration, the asylum system and the housing of those seeking protection.

As none of the mainstream voices were willing to engage without denigrating those with opposing views on migration it's left a gap that has allowed extremists to capitalise on.

A smarter political system would have reacted to the abuses within the system years ago rather than ignoring them - or in the case of amnesties, facilitating them. The opposition we see is the outworking of these policies without proper consultation.

The result of all this is you now have a political opinion group that doesn't care what polite company thinks about them now - because they've realised that polite company couldn't give a **** about them. They have the houses, the private healthcare and the children in gaelscoileanna away from the public service pressures those that have turned on the mainstream face.

what public service pressures are people in ballymun and east wall facing because people are being temporarily given shelter there? only thing I can think of is possibly that GPs are busier?

don't think i've seen anyone on here say they support unlimited numbers of refugees.

I don't think people chanting is intimidating.

Despite the Irish Times reporting children terrified and afraid they're going to be shot. Seriously. What a rag.

See with your own eyes just how intimidated the "refugees" are by protestors outside their building. (This one in East Wall)

https://twitter.com/ThoughtsToby/status/1611458477674692608

This state does not take immigration control remotely serious, it never has. Even basic measures such as a specific number or contact to report illegal immigration for the public.

There are 1000s of illegals in this country, people who entered state illegally, failed IP applicants, people out of permissions. No follow up, nothing will be done. Even illegal's convicted of criminality don’t get deported. Look at the number of “enforced deportations” for the last year….17. Just under 20% of of all prisoners in the state are non Irish.

A lot of talk about our immigration/IP obligations under the UN, the US, Australia, Denmark, Poland etc all signed the same agreement. However, each country has an immigration system with checks and controls.

I think you’re doing an amazing job and credit to you. Let’s hope the groups get bigger and bigger !

Its not JUST chanting.

Its chanting outside peoples homes to get the people out.

Do you not actually see that chanting "get them out" at peoples homes about the people living there actually loses you support?

Is someone stood outside the house where I live chanting "get them out" - of course I would feel intimidated. I would feel scared, sick to my stomach, terrified, worried.

Funny enough your last few lines are accurately describing a lefty southsider colleague of mind who is outraged on twitter about the activities of the far right.

The guys giving protestors the finger obviously didn't feel "scared, sick to their stomach, terrified or worried".

That's a good question about how the chanting can be portrayed to the general public. Does it lose support?

The real answer is the one no one on your side wants to hear. On that day in Ballymun questions of good strategy didn't come in to it. Despite everything you need to tell yourselves, that wasn't a controlled or organised protest. The crowd chanted because that's what the crowd did.

people chanting out out out at people in hotels is what i'd call obnoxious, dangerous even

i don't get it though, as i've said i'll live beside the one in east wall soon enough. how is that going to affect my life?