Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

On a per capita basis, we have taken double the number of Ukrainian refugees than Denmark. Yet we are almost double the distance from Ukraine. Unlike the shambles here, the Danes appreciate that you can't maintain a welfare state in the face of open borders. They have a "zero-refugee policy" and have serious politicians that actually prioritise their own people.

The Government do not seem to be telling the country about this wonderful "economic situation" that forces them to allow unlimited asylum seekers. I don't recall them ever laying out the economic viewpoint for the people to digest and understand. All I can recall are them citing "International Protection" and our obligations under that system.

I'm open to correction though, but that is my take on it.

All I can recall are them citing "International Protection" and our obligations under that system.

Ireland currently has no European Union obligation to take in refugees as it has an opt-in or opt-out clause on individual proposals in the areas of freedom, security and justice through the EU Treaty of Lisbon.

Ireland has *chosen* to participate in EU relocation and resettlement schemes

The EU has never forced Ireland to take in refugees or immigrants.

In fact, Ireland has no obligation to take in refugees as, along with Denmark, it has an opt-in or opt-out clause on justice and immigration measures under the Lisbon Treaty.

Ireland voluntarily agreed to fully participate in the EU relocation and resettlement schemes.

(And before anyone tries to quibble with that - every sentence above is taken from the website of the EU Commision.)

https://ireland.representation.ec.europa.eu/news-and-events/news/ireland-voluntarily-agrees-take-part-eu-schemes-resettle-refugees-2021-02-28_en

We are probably the envy of other EU members with our opt out clause but instead we take in every joker that shows up.

The governments policy on encouraging immigration seems to have been sold with global welfare in mind as opposed to national welfare. If it is the latter, this needs to be articulated more clearly to the public. Its unlikely that encouraging immigration, as it currently stands is not for the benefit of its existing citizens - if it were, we would be more selective and have an emphasis on skills and filling shortages. As it stands, the majority entering the country will remain reliant on government support and become active competitors with working class communities/students for jobs and housing. The differences in opinion here sometimes is whether our global humanitarian obligations take precedence over the needs of the present citizens.

This is essentially a large scale human experiment - for it to work, existing communities need to be listened to and all the more so, to working class communities where the sense of community is strong and perhaps, its greatest strength. Labelling them racist/fascist etc will only serve to strengthen that sense of community.

It's been the Irish way to roll over on every EU policy area for the last 15 years for fear that attention would be drawn to Irish taxation policy if it failed to do so.

You mean like when the Irish government took the EU to court to give a private American company back billions?

😕

The phrase "international obligations" has certainly been heavily pushed in the media over the last week.

It's perfect propaganda. Its partly an appeal to our collective conscience, and partly a threat to behave ourselves because some vague international higher authority is watching us.

It also frames the whole thing as part of a wider global mission that we should be proud of.

Ban contraception and once women get married they have to leave the civil service.

Watch those babies pop out! 👍️

The Irish population continued to decline for periods when those policies were in place. In fact the population grew faster after the marriage ban ended in 1973 and contraception was legalised in 1979.

Affordable housing and help with the cost of childminding is what I was talking about.

I said nothing like that, you did.

You really are the most disingenuous poster I have seen on boards.

Great we finally have someone who can explain the economics to all us uneducated idiot far rights posters.

So tell us how economically Ireland is benefitting from this policy.

Lol

We do subsidise child care, housing, children's allowance, free GP care, etc.

It's one of the reasons we have one of the highest fertility rates in the EU.

Times have changed though, women no longer want to be cattle and they certainly won't be changing that because some racists demand it. 🤷‍♀️

I'm not a women, and neither are you.

What I said.

women no longer want to be cattle

But you getting all offended does prove my point. 😂

You are confusing fertility rate with population increase.